The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is “definitely” coming in Q1 of 2025

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It would be ready nice if they included a top LCD mode screen like the R5 and most of the DSLRs they use to produce including the 6D. Don't know why they like to cripple cameras. Honestly that and the ergonomics is what stopped me from going over to the Sony bodies fully.
 
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Del Paso said:
Even though R6 II pictures are sharper, despite "only" 24MP?
Also much better ergonomics (joystick, aperture wheel etc...), better EVF, much better AF...:)
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I'm not sure I understand your statement here. The EOS R has a slightly higher res rear LCD and 4 more MP. The Eos R has a top LCD for those who think tis is important. The newer R3/R5's top screen is not as usefull or as fully featureed as the one found in the EOS 6DII / 5D series....but who needs it when the view finder literally has way more info and an optional overlaid histogram?
The R6ii has the same resolution EVF as the Eos R, including diopter and viewpoint.
The R6ii has 12fps 1st curtain in all AF modes, the EOS R can only muster 8fps without tracking, a low 5fps if the object is moving.
The R6ii offers a silent Electronic Shutter with a readout speed of around 15ms. In ES mode, 40 fps is available. The R6ii has lower iso noise and better DR than the Eos R.
The R6ii's AF is a lot more advanced and in movie mode, 6 hours of continuous recording is available vs 29mins on the Eos R.
The R6ii can shoot over twice the amount of frames compared to the EOS R, when using a similer battery.
The R6ii's shutter is rated at 400K clicks compared to the R's 200K.

THe R6ii really is a far more capable and reliable camera in most measurable metrics. However If I already had an Eos R, and was getting great images...Im not sure there is enough here to warrant a big spend in the side grade. But a R8 is a really nice 2nd camera candidate.
 
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Toamelicious said:
I like how this post about a potential R6 mark 3 has us debating mostly over an R8 or R7 upgrade.
And people wonder if the R6II is still competitive...
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For me, it's a matter of already having an R5II and R8, so the R6 series is very unattractive to me: it is much larger and heavier than the R8 and it's much lower resolution than the R5II. So there's no situation where I can imagine an R6 series would fill a need for my use case.
I mentioned the R8 since it was introduced 'alongside' the R6II and shared the bits that were important to me and we don't know what kind of refresh cycle it is on.

So for me, the R6 series not even considered to be competing, I can't speak for others.
 
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HMC11 said:
They probably need to 'tweak' it to a similar size as the R6 in order to have IBIS, in which case there would be little compactness advantage. (Fuji XT-5, which has IBIS, has a similar size as the R8, but it is for an APSC sensor.) However, if Canon is able to keep to the R8 form factor and build in IBIS, I will be most happy.
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Sony can fit IBIS in the full-frame A7C, although it is not rated for as many stops as it's fuller size bodies. I'm sure most Canon shooters would be happy with this kind of IBIS in an R8. I would.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
I'm not sure I understand your statement here. The EOS R has a slightly higher res rear LCD and 4 more MP. The Eos R has a top LCD for those who think tis is important. The newer R3/R5's top screen is not as usefull or as fully featureed as the one found in the EOS 6DII / 5D series....but who needs it when the view finder literally has way more info and an optional overlaid histogram?
The R6ii has the same resolution EVF as the Eos R, including diopter and viewpoint.
The R6ii has 12fps 1st curtain in all AF modes, the EOS R can only muster 8fps without tracking, a low 5fps if the object is moving.
The R6ii offers a silent Electronic Shutter with a readout speed of around 15ms. In ES mode, 40 fps is available. The R6ii has lower iso noise and better DR than the Eos R.
The R6ii's AF is a lot more advanced and in movie mode, 6 hours of continuous recording is available vs 29mins on the Eos R.
The R6ii can shoot over twice the amount of frames compared to the EOS R, when using a similer battery.
The R6ii's shutter is rated at 400K clicks compared to the R's 200K.

THe R6ii really is a far more capable and reliable camera in most measurable metrics. However If I already had an Eos R, and was getting great images...Im not sure there is enough here to warrant a big spend in the side grade. But a R8 is a really nice 2nd camera candidate.
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When I had the opportunity to test my own R and a rental R6 II, I found out:
- The R6's EVF mastered high contrast situations better than the R's
- Despite 30MP, the R6 II pictures looked sharper (confirmed by TDP's Brian). The Leica 24MP pictures are also visibly sharper than the R's when used with the same lens (Summilux 35mm).
- More configurable buttons and dials etc...and a joystick
And yes, the R6 misses the top LCD, those who don't like/use it (I do...) are better served with the R6 III
Despite the lack of this LCD, if given the choice, I wouldn't hesitate a second and get the R6. A really great camera, also a great value!
My R issue was solved in a different way: R5 II...but I keep using the R as an EDC with 50 or 28mm lenses.
But, maybe my use case is a bit specific, since I never use the rear LCD and always the top LCD (and of course, the EVF).
Subjectively speaking, the R6 II reminds me of another great Canon, the 5 DIII or 5 DIV.
 
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David - Sydney said:
I think that you are correct with the sensor but wouldn't the R6iii use a stacked sensor?
For a stacked sensor to also go into the R8ii would be remarkable and stay at the same price price.
Alternatively, they could drop the R8 price and have the R8ii price increased to have a different price point.
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You could very well be right. On the other hand, there is perhaps another scenario. If one assumes that the R8 line's refresh cycle is ~ 4 years, it means that by the time the R8ii appears, the R6iii is due another refresh (2-yr cycle) with a new sensor. In this case, putting the R6iii's sensor (which is presumably the current R3 sensor, i.e. about 5 years old by end 2026) into the R8ii at about the same R8 price point, might not be too far-fetched. I can always hope, I guess.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Well, I really like my R6ii. It's by far the most rounded and capable camera body I've ever owned. 24mp, high DR, great iso, fast 12fps 1st curtain and 40fps electronic....what's not to love? It's about the photos not the specifications. I've been really impressed with the R6ii, I've taken so many portfolio worthy photos this year. Some of my best work for sure.
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I love my R6 II too.... and really considering getting a R6 II to replace the R6, which seems aged when comparing them.... side by side....
 
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yankiefrankie said:
I don't think that is going to happen. Canon will most likely keep the R8 as a lighter/cheaper R6. That means the same sensor (stacked if R6 gets it), with a similar body to the current R8. It's more likely they will tweak the R8 body and add IBIS before they give it a joystick. Canon's strategy is if you need a joystick and more controls, get an R6. Want more compact and less controls (and cheaper), get an R8. This is a similar strategy as Sony and their A7/A7C bodies.

I like this strategy. I much prefer the Canon way of recycling their high-end sensors into lower model camera's rather than Sony's way keeping the same sensor for 2 generations of the same camera (A1/A1ii, A9/A9ii)
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Or can keep the same sensor, non-stacked... but sell R8 II at a lower price..... and they will be DOOM!!!!
 
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Inspired said:
It would be ready nice if they included a top LCD mode screen like the R5 and most of the DSLRs they use to produce including the 6D. Don't know why they like to cripple cameras. Honestly that and the ergonomics is what stopped me from going over to the Sony bodies fully.
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Agree... Sony was really a *Pain in the hand* experience for me... but heard they have improved, and so has Canon... so staying on this ship....
 
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Del Paso said:
Even though R6 II pictures are sharper, despite "only" 24MP?
Also much better ergonomics (joystick, aperture wheel etc...), better EVF, much better AF...:)
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Well, I'm almost 62. I want to make one more body purchase. Camera body. I wish I could buy a new body for myself. :p

For me, it isn't as much about the sharpness as it is cropping. I keep thinking 50mp would just be too much. On the other hand, I'm now on 2 acres. There are lots of birds. In a couple of years my fruit trees (lots of plum, apple, pear, persimmon, apricot, etc., and vineyard will have some size to them and birding will be a blast. In that case, 50mp would work.

I'd especially like photos of the Peliated Woodpecker that visits.

My R is plenty sharp. ;)

Priorities. I need a tractor worse. I'm in a 336sq ft cabin on an 87,200sqft lot. Push mowing is a bitch. ;) Takes 3 days on my week. If it rains, I'm mowing every day. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Ozarker said:
Well, I'm almost 62. I want to make one more body purchase. Camera body. I wish I could buy a new body for myself. :p

For me, it isn't as much about the sharpness as it is cropping. I keep thinking 50mp would just be too much. On the other hand, I'm now on 2 acres. There are lots of birds. In a couple of years my fruit trees (lots of plum, apple, pear, persimmon, apricot, etc., and vineyard will have some size to them and birding will be a blast. In that case, 50mp would work.

I'd especially like photos of the Peliated Woodpecker that visits.

My R is plenty sharp. ;)

Priorities. I need a tractor worse. I'm in a 336sq ft cabin on an 87,200sqft lot. Push mowing is a bitch. ;) Takes 3 days on my week. If it rains, I'm mowing every day. :ROFLMAO:
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My suggestion.
Buy:
1) A Kubota
2) An EOS R5II
3) Be happy yet broke... :p
4) If you don't want to be broke, steal the Kubota and the R5 II*
5) *You didn't hear it from me
 
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David - Sydney said:
Why would a CFe type B slot be needed? It uses up space and heats up a lot.
There isn't 8k raw video which needs bandwidth greater than USHii SD cards speeds. Even the A1 didn't need to use their CFe type A cards for video as their 8k was recorded using a codec and not raw.

There are only reason I can think of to add a CFe card:
- USHii SD cards are generally more expensive than CFe B cards for the faster SD cards
- Clearing the buffer will be faster using the CFe card. Clearly the SD card will be limiting factor if dual raw recording is setup.

The latter need could be reduced with a bigger buffer but that may cost more than the CFe/SD slot cost.
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The R6ii is a very popular action camera for sports and wildlife and I find I have to be careful not to hit the buffer shooting birds so a CFe B card would be great for me, also these cards aren't much bigger than SD cards and are cheaper to buy than V90 SD cards too, I also shoot 4K 60 fps video and would like to be able to shoot 4K 120
 
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