Canon EOS R6 Mark III prototypes are in the wild

I dissagree, the SD card slots in the current R6ii already cover 24mp @ 40fps more than adequately.
I don't think it would cover it in RAW. Your fastest UHS-II cards top out at 300 MB/s theoretical maximum.

R6II RAWs are 30 MB per file, and 40 fps gets you to 1200 MB/s, so you'll hit buffer limits. TDP says buffer depth is about 110 on the R6II or 2.5 seconds or so, which isn't a lot especially if you take the potential new pre-shooting features into account.

With CFE Type B 2.0 cards, you get a theoretical maximum of 1400 MB/s and you'll have a lot more room to work with.

The other advantage, as some other posters have mentioned, is that CFEB cards are faster and cheaper than SD cards. A SanDisk 512GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SD card is $600 on B&H right now, while a SanDisk 512GB Extreme PRO CFexpress Card Type B is on sale for $160. 1/4th the price for 4x the performance.
 
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I don't think it would cover it in RAW. Your fastest UHS-II cards top out at 300 MB/s theoretical maximum.

R6II RAWs are 30 MB per file, and 40 fps gets you to 1200 MB/s, so you'll hit buffer limits. TDP says buffer depth is about 110 on the R6II or 2.5 seconds or so, which isn't a lot especially if you take the potential new pre-shooting features into account.

With CFE Type B 2.0 cards, you get a theoretical maximum of 1400 MB/s and you'll have a lot more room to work with.

The other advantage, as some other posters have mentioned, is that CFEB cards are faster and cheaper than SD cards. A SanDisk 512GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SD card is $600 on B&H right now, while a SanDisk 512GB Extreme PRO CFexpress Card Type B is on sale for $160. 1/4th the price for 4x the performance.
The other big advantage is just how much faster it is to load the pictures onto a computer. Despite the R5II having larger files than the R6II, importing the pictures is far less annoying (well I do miss being able to use my laptop's built in card reader)
 
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I know I’m in the minority here, but I didn’t mind the system at all. Containing each burst into a separate folder made it very easy to eliminate bad shots en masse. It also made it easy to go into the folder and find the shots I liked, extract those as individual RAW files then delete the folder. I try to do almost all of my culling in camera and found that workflow to be very good. I also never needed to use Digital Photo Professional this way too.
I have a camera from another brand that gives you all the individual shots, and I totally agree. It is so easy to extract the shots in-camera and then delete the entire burst file.. Usually there may only be one or two keepers - and often you'll get none. Delete the burst rather than deleting 50 or 60 or 80 individual images. I think most people don't like the current method because they either don't know you can do it in-camera...or they just haven't figured out how to do it in-camera.
 
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I dissagree, the SD card slots in the current R6ii already cover 24mp @ 40fps more than adequately. The CF express is only required for high resolution 8K video. Which lets face it...is a niche requirement. if you need high end 8K...get a dedicated video camera that's capable of keeping the sensor and chip set cool.

I have no desire to swap over to CF express at the moment. It requires a new set of more expensive cards and a new card reader for pretty much the same feature parameters. Just because the R1/R3 and R5mkII have a CF express card slot doesn't mean that this camera should.

For me, I couldn't care less about the 14 bit super fast electronic shutter sensor read out speed if I loose out on the current model's DR and exceptional iso noise capcbility in 1st curtain shutter mode. Honestly 12fps 1st curtain shutter is mostly all speed I actually need or want. The current 40fps is total over kill.
A super fast sensor readout speed in ES mode puts this camera very close ot the R3 in terms of real world specifications.

What would I like as an upgrade? I'd like a top mount LCD and a higher rez EVF. Other than that....I'm super happy with the current R6ii.
I rather like the cfexpress on my R3. It lets me crank out raw photos and jpgs on separate cards at 30fps for long strings without crapping out the buffer. I doubt I could do that with 2 SD cards at the same volume for the same amount of time.
 
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The other big advantage is just how much faster it is to load the pictures onto a computer. Despite the R5II having larger files than the R6II, importing the pictures is far less annoying (well I do miss being able to use my laptop's built in card reader)
speed vs convenience... I prefer to offload my R5 images via the SD card to my macbook pro just so I don't need to get out my CFe card reader and cable. If I have high bitrate video that can only be recorded to the CFe card then I would offload it via CFe but that is rare for me.
 
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The other big advantage is just how much faster it is to load the pictures onto a computer. Despite the R5II having larger files than the R6II, importing the pictures is far less annoying (well I do miss being able to use my laptop's built in card reader)
It’s such a big difference between the SD from my R8 and the CFe from my R5II, it’s about 8 times faster, 2gbyte/s vs 250mbyte/s. And thanks to pre-capture adding 15 pictures to each shot, it needs that speed advantage :)

On vacation it does mean packing another card reader, the m1 macbook air lacks the SD slot. But at home I have the card readers hooked up to my desktop, so all cards are easy to offload.
 
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Blindfolded, I know, based on all past experience, that the Sony A7V will be inferior in every imaginable way. Except on paper. So if you like the camera to be good on paper, go for it.
I held a few Sony cameras before, and I ditched the idea of jumping ship as it was uncomfortable to hold for a long time... unlike Canon and Nikon....
 
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Yes I played around with all the combinations and got significantly better AF behavior than the default. But I still find the AF on the R5 much more reliable, to the extent that I no longer use the R62 for most of my photography. In some situations, the AF on the R62 is so wild and has a mind of its own that it slows me down. The R5 is flawless within its capabilities. And on the R6, the AF behaved identically to the R5. I would even say that maybe it worked a little better in very low light, but maybe it was just a feeling, I don't remember exactly anymore.

Maybe I need to send my R6 to service as my images seem out of focus recently.... maybe will test out the R5 II to get a feel... but is not really in my budget and I'm happy with R6 series and try to work with it limitation.... which I feel is part of the photographer role, to overcome the challenges...
 
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Canon had a great camera like you describe - with the top display and 30MP - it was called R.
For anyone who doesn't need pure camera speed, I think the R is a great camera.
I had the R and sold it for a refurb R5. It's surely a great camera for landscape - but with mediocre AF tracking and worse-than-Sony skintones. Even with color profiles like Color Fidelity skintones still looked off. And I don't have the time to use a color checker for each shooting just to get the skintones right. Too bad because the autofocus was good enough for model shootings.

Skintone comparison here:

 
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I had the R and sold it for a refurb R5. It's surely a great camera for landscape - but with mediocre AF tracking and worse-than-Sony skintones. Even with color profiles like Color Fidelity skintones still looked off. And I don't have the time to use a color checker for each shooting just to get the skintones right. Too bad because the autofocus was good enough for model shootings.

Skintone comparison here:

I own an EOS R for almost six years now (I used to have two, now just one) and I've almost never had a problem with skin tones. In fact, the difference between the R and the R5 is minimal to none for me.
At the very beginning, Adobe in LrC had a problem with the interpretation of R's RAWs, but Adobe quickly solved that and since then the files from R look great. I don't have too much experience with Sony files - I've had the chance to edit them a few times and they've been awful every time, but I think that's just a matter of me being used to Canon files and colors, not so much that Sony isn't good at it.

I hope you are happy with the R5 now.

Thanks for the link, but I haven't been following DPR for quite some time because, in my opinion, they have been compromised on several occasions and for me they are not a relevant source of information, especially for subjective impressions - I can always find specifications elsewhere, if I really need them.
 
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I had the R and sold it for a refurb R5. It's surely a great camera for landscape - but with mediocre AF tracking and worse-than-Sony skintones. Even with color profiles like Color Fidelity skintones still looked off. And I don't have the time to use a color checker for each shooting just to get the skintones right. Too bad because the autofocus was good enough for model shootings.

Skintone comparison here:

I know people debate about the skintones and color science of differnt brands and say that A is better than B. But I checked the dpreview site and found that even within Sony, there is a large variation of what skin tones are on differnet models. Check out the differnces on these 4 Sony cameras. a7R IV, a7S, a7R V, and the a7 III. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/im...=1&x=0.8621086612740415&y=-0.1728428400173742
 
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But I checked the dpreview site and found that even within Sony, there is a large variation of what skin tones are on differnet models. Check out the differnces on these 4 Sony cameras. a7R IV, a7S, a7R V, and the a7 III. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/im...=1&x=0.8621086612740415&y=-0.1728428400173742
There can certainly be variations from one camera model to another, but the DPR comparison tool sometimes shows substantial exposure differences, which makes it not particularly useful for actual comparisons.
 
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Its a win if it has:

Faster read-out speeds (r6 ii is already very good and usuable with e-shutter, but improvements are welcomed)
Realy 14bit raw files with e-shutter (this is a must for me)
Flash sync with e-shutter
Practical pre-buffer, not the abomination it has now.

Any other improvements are welcomed in DR/ tonal range etc.
 
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I dissagree, the SD card slots in the current R6ii already cover 24mp @ 40fps more than adequately. The CF express is only required for high resolution 8K video. Which lets face it...is a niche requirement. if you need high end 8K...get a dedicated video camera that's capable of keeping the sensor and chip set cool.

I have no desire to swap over to CF express at the moment. It requires a new set of more expensive cards and a new card reader for pretty much the same feature parameters. Just because the R1/R3 and R5mkII have a CF express card slot doesn't mean that this camera should.

For me, I couldn't care less about the 14 bit super fast electronic shutter sensor read out speed if I loose out on the current model's DR and exceptional iso noise capcbility in 1st curtain shutter mode. Honestly 12fps 1st curtain shutter is mostly all speed I actually need or want. The current 40fps is total over kill.
A super fast sensor readout speed in ES mode puts this camera very close ot the R3 in terms of real world specifications.

What would I like as an upgrade? I'd like a top mount LCD and a higher rez EVF. Other than that....I'm super happy with the current R6ii.
CF Express cards are generally cheaper then fast V90 SD UHS-ii cards and the card readers are cheap too
 
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It must use digic accelerator !

Give me a break, that chip is 15$ extra for the cost of the camera and 5$ more for the motherboard circuits. And they charge 300-400 more dollars/euros extra mainly for stacked sensor.

Who told you that no digic accelerator is being used in R6iii ? Trusted source ?
 
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I'd love to see a resolution bump to 30(ish) MP but as long as the Z6 line stays at 24 MP as well (i.e. the industry standard for mid-range full frame remains at 24), I don't see much pressure on Canon to increase the resolution. What I feel is overdue though is built-in GPS again. It debuted in the 6D so why not reintroduce it to mirrorless in the R6III?
 
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