The Canon EOS R6 Mark III will be good, but not revolutionary
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I don´t think a price bump is due to R&D costs, but the mkiii will have (according to rumors) three new meaningful features and significant updates (stacked sensor/ tilt screen/ OLED screen), two canons first (which is always good for marketing) and few other new things, so I'm pretty sure they'll raise the retail price. Come fall, the rebates and cash back will kick in and bring it back to the 2.500 € area. (probably more like 2.600 €).
Imho, the updates between the mki and mkii were not as significant as these updates are (more like ironing out weaknesses), still there was a 12% bump for the retail price.
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What shutter speed are you using? Slower that 1/60 won't taking advantage of the 40FPS. What others are pointing out is that the R6-2 has a fairly small buffer. I'd like a larger buffer but I'm not spending double or triple the money to get it.
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Where are you getting this data from? Are you confusing the burst raw mode witht he ES HS+ buffer?
According to my R6ii, I seem to be able to be able to churn through 40fps until the buffer fills up, then it's only slowed because it's writing to the card. On my camera and card combo, that's about 90 RAWs (2.5 seconds), or about 120 CRAWs for about 3.5 seconds. Which I belive is about the same as the R5ii. The original R5 had a longer 7 seconds HS+ duration in ES mode because of the 20fps limit. If I dial inthe same setting on my R6ii, ES HS (20fps) RAW, I seem to be able to shoot for around 12 seconds before the buffer fills, around 250 raw files. The data through put is roughly the same for all three cameras. it's jus tthe internal buffer size that limts the time duration before the camera needs to dump the files to the card reader. If you dial the R5ii or the R6ii down to 20fps you get more shooting time because the buffer is filling slower. What we are seeing here is the camera's internal buffer maxing out before the camera tips the files onto the card reader.
According to Duade Paton, the R5 and R5II have the same buffer size. The R5II has around 90 RAW frames of buffer in ES HS+ (30fps) mode. if you dial it to 20, you get more. CRAWs I belive the buffer is around 230 shots before the buffer maxxes. Whihc are the same figures I'm seeing on my R6II with the same settings dialled in.
The R3 gets 30 fps for 150 shots, which is 5 seconds by my math. I can't dial in 30 fps into my R6II. My Maths makes that R3's buffer about 1/3 bigger than the R6ii / R5II's buffer. Maybe Canon should invest in some bigger buffer chips than the OLED screen?
On the R6ii there is a pre capture and Burst mode that allows a 0.5 second (20 frames) of shooting combined into a single raw frame to be decoded in post production.
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Hope they swap the video/stills switch with the on/off switch: what idiot thought it was good to have a video/stills switch that can't be operated with your right hand?
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People are confusing the micro OLED EVF with the rear display. Most all camera EVFs are micro OLED. And most all camera rear displays are LCDs and some are touch LCDs. Canon has the best touch LCDs. I know no mirrorless cameras that have a rear touch screen OLEDs. And certainly not massed produced in any quantity. They couldn't even get drivers for the limited amount rear displays they could manufacture only a couple of years ago. Only a handfull of manufacturers mass produce 3 inch displays in any sizeable quantities, LG and Samung being two.
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For the full frame mirrorless segment in particular, Sony is very competitive. They were the #1 selling FF brand in the US and worldwide last year, and the A7IV was the best selling FF camera in both units and revenue in the US.
Canon has more FF cameras at the ~$2000 price point or lower (R6II and R8 vs just the A7IV until late in 2023 when they added the A7C2) and newer products (R6II and R8 were launched a year+ after the A7IV), but Sony is still ahead for now.
We are seeing a tangible response from Canon as well: they have sped up the release cycle for the 6 series cameras. 6D (Sep 2012) to 6DII (June 2017) to R6 (July 2020) is about a 3-4 year gap between releases, and R6 (July 2020) to R6II (Nov 2022) to R6III (Q1 2025?) has shortened that to ~2.3 years.
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The single biggest upgrade I wanted in the R5 Mark II was the tilt/flip screen. I would have traded away any of the other improvements to the Mark II for that one feature—not that it would have mattered since the 1.6 stop reduction in DR at my most used ISO was a deal killer anyway.
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Today there is no sense on a 24 MP full-frame camera. Please... Today, every m4/3 or aps-c already has 24 MP...
It\'s like walk with a Hasselblad with say 30 MP. No sense.
If today a mirrorless full-frame camera had same pixel density that first mirrorless camera, it would have 42 MP.
It\'s like walk with a Hasselblad with say 30 MP. No sense.
If today a mirrorless full-frame camera had same pixel density that first mirrorless camera, it would have 42 MP.
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