Backstory: I have been a full-time professional Nature and wildlife photographer for almost thirty years (www.jholko.com). I have specialised in Polar and sub-polar photography and have made over 100 expeditions to both the Arctic and Antarctic.
Output size typically scales with viewing distance. 60-foot wide highway digital billboards are typically 8MP or less.A 60-in by 90-in print with 24MP?! That I want to see. I've made prints at 106 pixels per inch but that is 66 pixels per inch.
I've seen large prints taken with 1D series bodies in galleries. Amazing pictures. I think the trick is pretty straight forward. Camera resolution is more about resolving detail in your subject. Once you have the level of detail you find adequate, you could up output from software to almost any size so that you do not see any pixelation. So, at least to me, resolving the level of detail you want is step 1. Step 2 is projecting that detail to your output.A 60-in by 90-in print with 24MP?! That I want to see. I've made prints at 106 pixels per inch but that is 66 pixels per inch. And why does the bottom half of the penguins fade to white?
Absolutely. Observer's distance is the key.Output size typically scales with viewing distance. 60-foot wide highway digital billboards are typically 8MP or less.
The EOS R1 is undoubtedly the toughest tool in Canon’s arsenal and the ideal camera for any unforgiving environment.
There is no reason to believe that the EOS R1s will not perform equally well in extremely hot and humid environments.
The R1’s 24MP full-frame sensor delivers stunning detail, dynamic range, and colour fidelity.
There appears to be a purity and depth of colour to the EOS R1’s 14-bit RAW files that I have only seen before in much more expensive medium format files.
The addition of Pre-capture ensures nothing is missed.
The Canon EOS R1 is a dream camera for nature and wildlife photographers. Its rugged durability, cutting-edge autofocus and exceptional image quality (even at high ISO) make it ideally suited for extreme environments like the Polar regions. The addition of pre-capture and 40 FPS RAW ensures you will never miss the action.
...Because it would give you the option to shoot a high res file OR a low res binned file with similar noise performance. You can't create detail from a lower res image. You CAN pixel bin a higher res file into a lower noise, lower res image.This incredible performance would not be possible if the camera had a higher megapixel sensor. Sure, you can pixel bin a higher-resolution file to reduce the noise, but then what was the point of the extra resolution if you are just going to throw it away anyway?
This! Viewing distance is everything and the larger your print gets, the further back you have to stand to admire it.Output size typically scales with viewing distance. 60-foot wide highway digital billboards are typically 8MP or less.
Strange enough, I experienced this exact same phenomenon. I haven't been home with both cameras long enough to do any further testing, but my years of experience with the R3 was that it proved incredible for low light video. I'd like to adjust settings in a controlled use to see how it performs.Anyone know the ISO performance in video compared to the R3? I did a test with a body cap on and running through the ISO numbers from 100 to 12,800 with clog 3 and 2. The R3 has less noise in almost all settings. Did I do something wrong or is the R3 superior in video noise performance. Would this translate equally in photo mode?
My main goal is to have a low light photo/video option. I have two R5 II for the rest of my needs.
Stories like this matter so much to me.Backstory: I have been a full-time professional Nature and wildlife photographer for almost thirty years (www.jholko.com). I have specialised in Polar and sub-polar photography and have made over 100 expeditions to both the Arctic and Antarctic.
I found it interesting that the default Auto ISO range of the R3 goes up to 25600, while it goes up to 51200 on the R1.After about a month, I honestly don't see any functional difference between the R1 and R3 files in terms of noise performance...
I thought "higher res would cause more noise" was an interesting take given that in the R7 II thread the consensus seems to be that pixel size doesn't determine noise levels given an equivalent-aperture lens and same sensor size:I also didn't find his last argument 'against' higher resolution very convincing.
...Because it would give you the option to shoot a high res file OR a low res binned file with similar noise performance. You can't create detail from a lower res image. You CAN pixel bin a higher res file into a lower noise, lower res image.
As I stated, exposure is determined by light per unit area (at the pixel level, if you prefer) but noise is not. Just compare the image noise at something fairly high, e.g., ISO 6400, on FF vs. APS-C – much higher on APS-C even though the exposure is the same.
The noise at ISO 2500 on APS-C is about the same as the noise ISO 6400 on FF. Quantitatively, the difference is a bit over 1⅓-stops [technically, it’s log₂(2.56) since the area of a FF sensor is 2.56-times larger than APS-C (for Canon)].
After reading this thread and the above linked articles, if you want to keep believing pixel size determines noise, go right ahead. Like those who believe the earth is flat and won’t let facts influence their belief, you are free to believe what you want even if it’s wrong.
I agree with you, mpmark, about the 24mp being a downside to the R1 (and possibly on the R6III). It's a nice topic to debate over nachos. But I don't understand the point of anything else you've written here. You say that "this photographer writes this article like paid promotional material," but with your choice of blustery words such as "claim," "idiot," "stretch," "boasts," and more, you write as if you have a large chip on your shoulder. After my years on this forum, and not always lovey-dovey, I see zero reason for your seething resentment.firstly, this photographer writes this article like paid promotion material. You can claim you buy your own gear and anything you want but you don't have to be an idiot to see how its written.
Article quote "Many photographers never reach this point as they upgrade their cameras too often and never learn to master the tools they already own."
Bit of a stretch when he earlier boasts he "owned them all" 1DXiii, R5, R5ii, R3's, now two R1's. and you state others never master their tools? come on now.
Stating the camera handled the Antarctic (in the peak of the summer I might add) kinda is irrelevant, 99% of people wont have the ability to travel private charter to these locations anyway, so its kinda a mute point. Yes the R1 is most likely nicely weather sealed but so is the R5ii which I own, I've never had any problems with weather nor should I. I highly doubt he would've failed if he happened to have an R5ii with him on that same trip, so these points are a bit stretched to sell the camera.
I also love it when people's argument for 24mp is basically only used as a "Id rather have this "feature" and be stuck with 24mp". You're basically admitting you have no argument.
Would a 96 MP sensor (which is what you'd need to pixel bin down to 24 MP) have the 'incredible performance' of 40 fps and a very deep buffer? I think not.I also didn't find his last argument 'against' higher resolution very convincing
This incredible performance would not be possible if the camera had a higher megapixel sensor. Sure, you can pixel bin a higher-resolution file to reduce the noise, but then what was the point of the extra resolution if you are just going to throw it away anyway?...Because it would give you the option to shoot a high res file OR a low res binned file with similar noise performance. You can't create detail from a lower res image. You CAN pixel bin a higher res file into a lower noise, lower res image.
You might think it's a downside that the top speed of my car is 130 mph instead of 250 mph, but that's only a downside if I need to drive faster than 130 mph.I agree with you, mpmark, about the 24mp being a downside to the R1 (and possibly on the R6III).
You forgot to bring nachos.You might think it's a downside that the top speed of my car is 130 mph instead of 250 mph, but that's only a downside if I need to drive faster than 130 mph.
Some people want/need more than 24 MP. Some don't. For those that don't, there's no downside.
It was kind of crazy to see how well the R3 performed and my tests was pretty controlled imo. Even at 12,800 the R3 was a lot cleaner. I wanted every reason to sell the R3 and get the R1, but couldn’t justify it after seeing those results.Strange enough, I experienced this exact same phenomenon. I haven't been home with both cameras long enough to do any further testing, but my years of experience with the R3 was that it proved incredible for low light video. I'd like to adjust settings in a controlled use to see how it performs.
After about a month, I honestly don't see any functional difference between the R1 and R3 files in terms of noise performance, aside from colors which looks so slightly but noticeably richer on the R1. There is more detail in the R1 file, but that could just be a slightly weaker AA filter. We're splitting hairs here and most users who don't even own proper monitors to work on will probably never even see the subtle differences.