Patent Application: The Zoom You’ve Dreamt About: 70-150mm F2.0

Another site is reporting a variation they describe as a 70-150 f/1.8. The exact specs look like 72-146 @ f/1.89.

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I swore I saw that when i first looked at the patent app, and even told Craig there was a 70-150mm F1.8 then when i was writing it up, the machine translate buried that one.

this is what it looks like - most of the times I catch these.
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Thanks!

I swore I saw that when i first looked at the patent app, and even told Craig there was a 70-150mm F1.8 then when i was writing it up, the machine translate buried that one.

this is what it looks like - most of the times I catch these.
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I just looked through the patent. The f1.8 is numerical example 6 (of 8).
It took a long while to fully complete the translation on the Japanese Patent Site.

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There is no technical reason why this lens would cost more to design and produce than either of Canon's current 70-200mm f2.8 LIS lenses.
I suppose it's the quantities involved - smaller production run will require higher price to cover those costs to make a profit. How many would buy it compared with a 70-200/2.8?
 
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There is no technical reason why this lens would cost more to design and produce than either of Canon's current 70-200mm f2.8 LIS lenses.
Wouldn't virtually all elements and the body itself be significantly larger? More time to grind glass (if they still do that)? Serious question. I profess zero knowledge in lens manufacturing. I'm just see 2.8 vs 4.0 lenses and assume the same jump to get to 2.0 from 2.8.
 
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Wouldn't virtually all elements and the body itself be significantly larger? More time to grind glass (if they still do that)? Serious question. I profess zero knowledge in lens manufacturing. I'm just see 2.8 vs 4.0 lenses and assume the same jump to get to 2.0 from 2.8.
Yes, glass is still being ground and polished. This doesn't apply to some pressed glass lenses and, of course, to the acrylic ones.
 
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Wouldn't virtually all elements and the body itself be significantly larger? More time to grind glass (if they still do that)? Serious question. I profess zero knowledge in lens manufacturing. I'm just see 2.8 vs 4.0 lenses and assume the same jump to get to 2.0 from 2.8.
If the lens was 70-200, then yes. But the rumor is 70-150. 200/2.8 = 71.4mm, 150/2 = 75mm, not too different. For an analogy, look at the 24-105/2.8 vs. the 28-70/2 – the former is longer and the other is fatter but they're only 100g different in weight.
 
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Wouldn't virtually all elements and the body itself be significantly larger? More time to grind glass (if they still do that)? Serious question. I profess zero knowledge in lens manufacturing. I'm just see 2.8 vs 4.0 lenses and assume the same jump to get to 2.0 from 2.8.
No they wont. The math tells us that the lens will be of similar size and bulk, maybe even slightly smaller than the current 70-200/2.8. it's reasonable to assume that it will be shorter in physical length.

The aperture value / rating of a lens is a ratio between the diameter of the front element and the focal length of the lens. So fo example a 300mm f2.8 will have a from element diameter of approximatly 100mm. Put the 200mm f2.8 into the same math grinder an your get approximatly 72mm. Put a 140mm f2 into the same equation and we see 70mm. Canon often upsize their front element and then use the pupil size to obtain similar light transmission / simlated aperture values. For instance, there is no aperture related reason why a 28-70mm f2.0 lens needs a 95mm diameter front element. It might be good for other optical reasons, but it's not related to the lens' aperture value.

If you look back at the original EF 80-200mm f2.8 (aka the magic Drain Pipe), you will see that it's front element is only 72mm and yet it is a 200mm f2.8 optic.
 
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