The grapes are sour, hehe.and a clearly-flawed extra 2mm which is being completed via software rather than the glass you've ostensibly paid for.
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The grapes are sour, hehe.and a clearly-flawed extra 2mm which is being completed via software rather than the glass you've ostensibly paid for.
Even with the 'Fine Detail' profile enabled? I haven't used in-camera JPEGs in years, but selecting 'Fine Detail' improved video quality a lot for me! DPP4 will also use the profile you have selected in the camera.I found Canon JPEGs unusable in both 1D series cameras I owned so far. No matter how I change the settings, there seems to be some kind of noise reduction always applied even if you turn off all noise reduction. The images look like wrapped into plastic. I decided to only use them for previews.
What if Canon offers Lightroom the exact correction data (which Adobe otherwise would have to find on their own) in return for a correction that happens even before hitting the lens profile checkmark?
It is strange that no Youtube review I saw so far mentions that distortion. Are they not aware of it, because they use DDP or are they just ignoring it?
I don't buy that for a second. Adobe is the 800lb gorilla of software and I'm sure Canon has a close and positive working relationship with Adobe. Canon has much more to lose by not cooperating with Adobe than Adobe has. Canon knows that DPP is just a gnat on the windshield of processing software and has no interest or financial reason to jeopardize their relationship with Adobe for the sake of DPP.Adobe already effectively have a process to do that. Adobe's software also competes with DPP and you can bet that there would be internal political pressure at Canon to not supply Adobe with that information.
Where can I find that? I only found settings for changing the JPEG quality from 0 to 10 or so. I always opted for the highest quality. I also disabled JPEG sharpening and all noise reduction that I can disable.Even with the 'Fine Detail' profile enabled? I haven't used in-camera JPEGs in years, but selecting 'Fine Detail' improved video quality a lot for me! DPP4 will also use the profile you have selected in the camera.
Oh really?Adobe's software also competes with DPP
It should be in the Camera icon menu under 'Picture Style'. The presentation is a bit disingenuous, every style listed has a different baseline, so the individual adjustments are against that specific baseline, you can't recreate a style on your own by copying the slider settings.Where can I find that? I only found settings for changing the JPEG quality from 0 to 10 or so. I always opted for the highest quality. I also disabled JPEG sharpening and all noise reduction that I can disable.
I only have the picture styles Auto, Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, Natural and Monochrome.It should be in the Camera icon menu under 'Picture Style'. The presentation is a bit disingenuous, every style listed has a different baseline, so the individual adjustments are against that specific baseline, you can't recreate a style on your own by copying the slider settings.
i assume dpp is there so that canon can claim owners can access all of the advertised functions of the equipment without 3rd party products and without disclosing protocols and formats. some users it is good enough so as not to have to rent the adobe stuff.Oh really?
Does DPP make any money for Canon that Adobe's software wouldn't?
all of this stuff are tools to be used within a system. when i bought into the EF system i chose to mount a ef28-70L to my elan-7e and used various developer/print makers to see the results. In that system, a lens with noticeable geometric distortion would not have produced the results i was looking for. Some folks might still be shooting and processing film and digital correction may still not be an option. I used a tamron 28-300 for a light weight travel rig, and while that lens has some distortion i was pretty pleased with the results i obtained with correction. This was for me a better tool and system choice for different goals.Yes, for a camera with an OVF they would never have produced an L-lens with such a heavy distortion, because they know that people would hate that, even if that photo looks still start after correcting it in software. Now people have an EVF and Canon knows that most buyers will never know about the distortion, as the EVF gives Canon the chance to hide it.
I am still curious if the distortion will be visible in the RAW if you open it with Lightroom, as there applying lens profiles is optional. Or does Canon have an agreement with Adobe to force correction on this lens?
AgreeI assume dpp is there so that canon can claim owners can access all of the advertised functions of the equipment without 3rd party products...
Disagree. I believe Canon probably shares relevant protocols and formats with Adobe so that users can process Canon files as seamlessly as possible with the world's most popular photo processing software....and without disclosing protocols and formats...
I use DPP only when a camera is too new to be supported by DxO PhotoLab.i assume dpp is there so that canon can claim owners can access all of the advertised functions of the equipment without 3rd party products and without disclosing protocols and formats. some users it is good enough so as not to have to rent the adobe stuff.
Just a side note. I noticed that when I downloaded the latest version of Camera Raw, the default setting was to have the "apply lens profile" option checked. I had to turn it off. I wonder if this is a function of the move to mirrorless.I am still curious if the distortion will be visible in the RAW if you open it with Lightroom, as there applying lens profiles is optional...
Oh really?
Does DPP make any money for Canon that Adobe's software wouldn't?
I don't buy that for a second. Adobe is the 800lb gorilla of software and I'm sure Canon has a close and positive working relationship with Adobe..
Just a side note. I noticed that when I downloaded the latest version of Camera Raw, the default setting was to have the "apply lens profile" option checked. I had to turn it off. I wonder if this is a function of the move to mirrorless.
So what?Every time someone buys a Canon camera that comes packaged with DPP, they're paying for DPP.
To me the bad joke is f/4. They teased us with patents for ultrawides in the f/1.2 to f/1.0 range - crazy wide and crazy fast. And what do we get - f/4. And at a hefty price, too.Because that is what they are used to. People have been very quick to dump DSLR’s but you can’t do this kind of shenanigans with an optical viewfinder.
If the ‘lens improvements’ the RF mount gives amount to nothing more than clever software tricks (I wondered how Nikon and Canon had managed to make non bulbous front element ff 14mm lenses) then I’d be pretty pissed too.
When compared to stand out lenses like the EF 16-35 f4 IS and the EF 11-24 f4, let alone the TS-E 17mm some of these current RF premium lenses seem like a bit of a bad joke.
By that logic, Canon makes money on camera boxes, and competes with Adobe to sell packaging material. Oh, wait…that’s not really logical, is it?Every time someone buys a Canon camera that comes packaged with DPP, they're paying for DPP. So yes, DPP does make money for Canon. You pay for everything in the box, camera, battery, strap, charger, manual(s), and software package. You don't buy "just the camera".
The difference is that developing software is really expensive.By that logic, Canon makes money on camera boxes, and competes with Adobe to sell packaging material. Oh, wait…that’s not really logical, is it?
No doubt Canon covers the costs of DPP development through camera sales, in the same way they cover the costs of printing warranty cards. But no one ‘buys’ warranty cards, and Canon doesn’t sell DPP. It’s a free download.