I think that the upscaling works from raw and then the final file is a jpg... but after thinking about it, Canon must be using the picture style etc so maybe the camera coverts the raw file into a big jpg and then upscales it. Either way the final image is jpg. HEIF would be better of course.
According to the early reviews, you can only upscale from jpeg to jpeg. Canon said using the CR3 would make it take too long.
I suspect people hate the group behind hevc and their expensive licensing terms.
Upscaling is a pretty useless feature for this.
Never pre-order from Canon USA. Ever. B&H or Adorama, or your local shop. Your experience mirrors those posted here for years. The only reason to order something from Canon USA is if it's refurbished, or if their price is too good to pass up (for example, I bought the 10x42L IS binoculars from them new for less than the cost of a refurb). But their web store is a joke.
Canon Europe has similar issues, it’s like they only pretend to be a proper store, but forgot to implement anything beyond the website
We don't all come with the same experience. But I'll treat it as a learning lesson and move on.
Sorry you had to learn it the hard way.
There have been reports that the R5II will be stocked fairly well, fairly soon so hopefully you won't have much of a wait. One thing to do, on the day they actually start shipping check the retailers or register for alerts with cpricewatch. People place preorders with multiple vendors then cancel all but the first one to ship. I've noticed with several releases that there were brief periods of in-stock availability at some retailers (including Canon USA if you want to risk it) on the day new cameras started shipping.
I've ordered quite a bit from them and never had a problem. But to simply just cancel and then provide no explanation or even try to correct the mistake on a pre-order for the R5 seems crazy. Guess they don't care if you buy from elsewhere. So, it is the way.Canon Europe has similar issues, it’s like they only pretend to be a proper store, but forgot to implement anything beyond the website
Try changing the delivery address a few minutes after ordering, it took many phone calls to not get it done.
I was saved by the UPS delivery person recognizing my name and ignoring the address on the label
This is of course too late for you, but maybe we’ll get enough google juice for future people to be forewarned!
(I was forewarned but decided to chance it anyway, I did get my R5 that way.)
Yah, I guess it's somewhat good news to hear that others have had this type of experience with Canon USA. It's duly noted and just have to chalk it up as a learning experience.Sorry you had to learn it the hard way.
The in-camera AI upscaling works on JPEG only--meaning that the networks were trained on JPEG and thus do not use the extra information intrinsic to RAW format. The ONLY benefit, relative to something like TopazLabs Photo AI upscaler, is that the network has been trained exclusively on R5 Mark II output, so it has learned to avoid the nuances imparted to JPEG by the R5 Mark II sensor.I can suggest the following R5MkII review:
Canon EOS R5 Mark II review: still the best damn camera you can buy
The Canon EOS R5 II is, once again, the company's most important – and most powerful – camerawww.digitalcameraworld.com
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But part of what I find fascinating in the writings of James Artaius (the author of the above-linked article) is within his 'mini-review':
OH. MY. GOD. Canon's in-camera AI is going to change everything
Canon's EOS R1 and R5 Mark II can upscale images 400% and remove 2 stops of ISO noise in-camera. How good is it? It's THIS good
Specifically, the author writes this:
"Fiddliness aside, I believe these AI features are going to completely transform the way we look at cameras, sensors and performance. In one sense, the EOS R5 Mark II is essentially a 180MP camera with super-clean ISO performance. Why bother making expensive sensors with crazy resolution when you can just upscale at this quality?
But I look at this another way. Why even bother making a 24MP camera when you can make a 6MP sensor and upscale the files? That way you'll get the benefits of huge photosites for supreme low light performance, without any of the overheating woes that plague modern sensors.
And what does this mean for Canon's PowerShot products with 1-inch sensors – how much better could the image quality be coming out of pocket-sized cameras using this tech? [My emphasis added.]
Whatever happens, Canon's in-camera AI is going to change everything."
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I have long wondered how much modern technology Canon could pack into an S-series sized truly pocketable camera, a camera that could do more than a modern iPhone (or whatever phone) can do.
In fact I've posted this sort of thing previously, right here on CR.
I would pay a premium price for such a product.
Yah, I don't want the camera denoising with ai for me. Honestly that feature is meaningless to me. I just want the sensor to perform. I'll handle what I want to with regards to image editing in post processing. Having a system completely remove you from the creative equation is absurd and counter to what most creatives want.
I don't want this to be like going down a rathole.
