When will Canon service end for your Canon camera or lenses?
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tomscott
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Thanks for the feedback guys!
Ye ive been in touch with every major shop and CPS and they won't take it. A lot of the old school niche shops have shut down now which is a shame.
I personally own the MKI and it was tack super tack and never understood the comments about how poor it was but a little like other posters maybe I got a good one it must have been one of the last off the line being a December 12 build.
At my previous work I had the MKII and used it for 5 years and honestly in the real world it didnt really feel "much" sharper the AF was better tho. I have my gear regularly serviced at CPS and they serviced the MKI in 2022 so maybe thats what kept it in shape? It didnt seem worth spending the extra money and like I said I only got it in 2012 so the MKII came out a year later.
Thats the hesitance of the MKII is a preowned one is also a gamble as they get hammered and in the UK market is still £1000 and honestly if I was moving I would get the RF simply because you dont need to use the adapter, I appreciate the benefits but inevitably the MKII is 12 years old now too and will be in the same boat with that in the not so distant future.
It's just mental the price differences of the RF vs EF. £2500 for a 24-70 is steep. The disappointing thing is that the lens doesnt seem to have got much sharper the benefit I suppose is IS. The reviews havent really been that glowing watching a few on YouTube, maybe its the price ratio if it was £1500 might be a different proposition.
Ye ive been in touch with every major shop and CPS and they won't take it. A lot of the old school niche shops have shut down now which is a shame.
I personally own the MKI and it was tack super tack and never understood the comments about how poor it was but a little like other posters maybe I got a good one it must have been one of the last off the line being a December 12 build.
At my previous work I had the MKII and used it for 5 years and honestly in the real world it didnt really feel "much" sharper the AF was better tho. I have my gear regularly serviced at CPS and they serviced the MKI in 2022 so maybe thats what kept it in shape? It didnt seem worth spending the extra money and like I said I only got it in 2012 so the MKII came out a year later.
Thats the hesitance of the MKII is a preowned one is also a gamble as they get hammered and in the UK market is still £1000 and honestly if I was moving I would get the RF simply because you dont need to use the adapter, I appreciate the benefits but inevitably the MKII is 12 years old now too and will be in the same boat with that in the not so distant future.
It's just mental the price differences of the RF vs EF. £2500 for a 24-70 is steep. The disappointing thing is that the lens doesnt seem to have got much sharper the benefit I suppose is IS. The reviews havent really been that glowing watching a few on YouTube, maybe its the price ratio if it was £1500 might be a different proposition.
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Most often impossible, unless you're a dentist...
These smallish screws are usually flush with the lens' body. The risk of cutting into the body is not to be neglected, the risk of depreciating the whole lens as well.
The worst, even perverse screws I had to open are the ones on older Leica M lenses. Tiny wormscrews with a straight slot. And made of very soft steel...A nightmare to open and to reinstall. (Provided the slot doesn't break when trying to unscrew - happens quite often
) Fortunately, the newer M lenses have Philips ones.Why do I know this?
Because I belong to those idiots who feel the strange need to open whatever they get, be it a mechanical camera, a powertool or a car engine. Crying, howling and regretting is sometimes the price to pay for curiosity.
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Good for you. Image quality on the Mk I in the center was ok, corners and edges was a completely different story (on both the 5D Mk II and III).
I replaced the Mk I with the Mk II in 2012 as soon as the Mk II was released.
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According to what I've seen, heard or read, the RF 24-70 is incomparably better, especially in the corners, than the EF Mk.I.
The soft corners were certainly the reason for Canon to develop the Mk.II.
I once tested a Mk.I on the 5 DIII, interested in buying it, and quickly brought it back. Not usable for landscapes, in my opinion.
The RF is certainly a very good lens, but I still have hopes for an f/2 version, as sharp as the 28-70 f/2... With some software help, it could be a bit more compact. Am I dreaming?
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Most often impossible, unless you're a dentist...
These smallish screws are usually flush with the lens' body. The risk of cutting into the body is not to be neglected, the risk of depreciating the whole lens as well.
The worst, even perverse screws I had to open are the ones on older Leica M lenses. Tiny wormscrews with a straight slot. And made of very soft steel...A nightmare to open and to reinstall. (Provided the slot doesn't break when trying to unscrew - happens quite often
Why do I know this?
Because I belong to those idiots who feel the strange need to open whatever they get, be it a mechanical camera, a powertool or a car engine. Crying, howling and regretting is sometimes the price to pay for curiosity.
I have yet to run into a screw in a lens I can't Dremel. There are some pretty cool tiny heads and punches you can get.
Keep in mind, I've done it hundreds of times and one should probably observe first. I've even built engines! Which I miss in Europe.
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That's why "right to repair" rules will be introduced to avoid planned obsolescence and having to throw away expensive items that could easily be repaired. I understand companies have to sell new stuff - but not everybody can spend thousands every few years.
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Then try to dremel a wormscrew on a vintage M lens. Head or global diameter is sometimes less than a millimeter. And they are always sunk. A true horror!I have yet to run into a screw in a lens I can't Dremel. There are some pretty cool tiny heads and punches you can get.
Keep in mind, I've done it hundreds of times and one should probably observe first. I've even built engines! Which I miss in Europe.
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In my neck of the woods there are still 3rd party repair houses that repair items no longer serviced by Canon. In some cases, they will source parts from other units or machine new ones and the cost is very reasonable. If you can’t find someone in the UK a trip overseas wouldn’t be all that expensive vs the cost of a replacement unit.Its so annoying.
I have a 24-70mm F2.8 MKI and one of the elements has moved ever so slightly so at 70mm it has a distortion bottom right.
Nobody will touch it because Canon have discontinued support meaning no parts. So if they open it and a component breaks they won't take it on because at that point its a paper weight.
The annoying thing is mine is a DEC 2012 build date so coincided with the MKII being released. Cast your mind back that lens was delayed until September 2013 so I bought the MKI.
This means its had a 12 year life span which is low for an L series lens. Obviously they were released in 2002 so its an "old lens" but not all are 22 years old. Just annoying in my case as for the R6 R6 MKII R8 the lower MP bodies its still a great lens.
The EF-S 17-55mm was released in 2006 and has support until 2030. 24 years
Mine is essentially now a paper weight when it's a perfectly good useable bit of glass.
To replace it for RF its £2500 here in the UK!
From these charts the RF doesnt perform much better than the MKI
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM Lens Image Quality
View the image quality delivered by the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM Lens using ISO 12233 Resolution Chart lab test results. Compare the image quality of this lens with other lenses.www.the-digital-picture.com
Ridiculous.
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Then try to dremel a wormscrew on a vintage M lens. Head or global diameter is sometimes less than a millimeter. And they are always sunk. A true horror!
I haven't had to do that yet, but there is a tool for everything. Some people just don't have the patience to find it. I'd just ask a pal in Wetzlar.
I have no problem admitting defeat though, but screws on Canon lenses are never an issue. Just the shims, which I don't think exist in the RF era.
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Would it be possible to keep this as a pinned reference? This information is extremely useful and I appreciate you collecting and sharing it.
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I did contact Solms back then.
The answer was to send it to them, they'd try (!) to drill it out, at my risk. (With a Dremel?
). Which was a logical answer.And that's right, the gigantic Canon screws are no problem compared to Leica's Lilliputians.
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This is a very important lesson that I also learned afterwards.If you do, pay attention to the screws, they are likely JIS, not philips and that makes a difference when they are stuck. I stripped a screw on my MP-E65mm by using the wrong screwdriver. Don't be me
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Which brqnd do you recommend?I can only confirm!
JIS are a different standard, Philips screwdrivers are likely to damage them, thus rendering disassembly difficult or plain impossible.
JIS sets can be bought from Amazon, but do not buy the cheap ones!
PS: I learnt it the hard way too, on an Olympus OM 2...
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I'm presently using Japanese screwdrivers made by Vessel. And can warmly recommend them also for philips and slot heads.
For conventional slot head screws I use Bergeon (Swiss maker of tools for the watchmaking industry). Very expensive, but they have the mini-mini-mini sizes in their program! Needed for those stupid Leica wormscrews.
For normal sized screws (cars, woodworking etc...) exclusively PB Swiss drivers and bits. By far the world's best screwdrivers (blades and ergonomics). NEVER the horrible Wera brand, in my opinion ergonomically far inferior, also true of the blade quality.
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