What is Your Most Wanted Canon RF Lens/Camera That Isn't Available?

I would simply like for Canon to get their collective acts together and fulfill the orders for a lens that was released in November of 2023. I am still waiting on my RF200-800. I didn't place multiple orders, I used a high profile reputable dealer in Chicago and I am still waiting. So I would just like Canon to get their act together and make it available.
 
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Last year there were 9.6 million lenses and 7.7 million ILCs shipped (CIPA data). That’s a 1.25:1 ratio of lenses to bodies, and given that most body sales are entry-level kits with 1-2 lenses, the data refute your statement. Instead, it appears there are a larger number of camera buyers who purchase the body with 1-2 kit lenses then never buy another lens, and a smaller number of camera buyers who buy many lenses.

Obviously, those in the latter group will have different budgets. Canon has ample market data to drive their prioritization of lenses. Also, as I’ve pointed out before, the motivations of the company that dominates the market and companies that don’t are different. Companies that are a distant #2 and/or #3 are often better served by making products the #1 company isn’t making.
The data doesn’t refute my statement. It’s more likely that the people who buy 1-2 lenses don’t stick with the hobby.

Just because canon is the leader currently doesn’t mean they can’t make mistakes or bad decisions.


I see. So first, Canon doesn’t offer anything in between the 800/11 and the 800/5.6. But now you acknowledge they do, in fact, offer an ‘in between’ option in terms of both cost and speed…you just don’t find it interesting. I repeat…mmmmmmkay.
No, you’re reading what you want to. The 200-800 is ultimately still a slow lens and the image quality at the long end isn’t great.
 
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I don’t think you have to be locked into the Canon ecosystem if you don’t want to be. I shoot multiple systems (Canon included) and I am very happy doing so.

If the 800/6.3 is really what you want, you can get a used “like new” Z8 for $3400 and a used copy of that lens for $5200 for an all-in cost of $8600 on MPB today.
As I stated earlier in this thread, I might ultimately do that. But I’d prefer not to and am holding out a small sliver of hope canon reintroduces DO lenses to compete in that segment.
Same here. I have no need, since I have a very nice 840mm f/5.6 birding lens (600/4 II + 1.4xIII) that a can handhold.
Great for you, but that setup weighs nearly twice as much as the Nikon lens in question. That’s a big difference in hand hold ability. Even more so when you consider the weight distribution of the ef ii + extender isn’t great.
 
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The data doesn’t refute my statement. It’s more likely that the people who buy 1-2 lenses don’t stick with the hobby.
What the numbers mean is that only a small fraction of ILC users buy additional lenses. Neither you nor I have any data on how many camera buyers use their cameras frequently. But considering the cost of cameras relative to incomes, it seems reasonable that most people who do use their cameras don’t buy many additional lenses. When they do, the popularity of the 50/1.8 lenses suggests that’s one of the commonly-purchased second/third lenses.

I’m not sure there’s a need to refute the statement that, “Anyone who buys an interchangeable lens camera and uses it for more than a couple months eventually does buy a new lens,” since it’s not only unprovable, it’s patently false. ‘Many people who’ or even ‘most people who’ would at least be plausible. ‘Anyone who’ is not.

Just because canon is the leader currently doesn’t mean they can’t make mistakes or bad decisions.
I have not suggested that, even remotely. It does appear they make few of them, if they made many then most likely they would have failed to maintain their market dominance. Compare to Nikon.

No, you’re reading what you want to. The 200-800 is ultimately still a slow lens and the image quality at the long end isn’t great.
I read what you stated – seems like you need a reminder:
I don’t see it as any sillier than offering a $1000 f/11 lens and a $18000 F/5.6 lens as the only available options.
A zoom lens that offers 800/9 and costs $1900 is certainly another option, and fits in between the 800/11 and the 800/5.6. Period.

I’m not sure why some people can’t simply admit they were wrong and/or choose to attempt to alter facts to fit their own beliefs, but there are sure are a lot of people in the world and on this forum who behave like that.
 
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Great for you, but that setup weighs nearly twice as much as the Nikon lens in question. That’s a big difference in hand hold ability. Even more so when you consider the weight distribution of the ef ii + extender isn’t great.
Yes, it is great for me. No where did I state or imply that it would be great for anyone else. Unlike you, I’m not in the habit of making claims about what everyone else does or should do.

In fact, what I was saying is that if opt for the 800/6.3 PF and a Nikon body if my current kit was not meeting my needs in terms of a birding setup…for the reasons you list.
 
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As I stated earlier in this thread, I might ultimately do that. But I’d prefer not to and am holding out a small sliver of hope canon reintroduces DO lenses to compete in that segment.
So long as it doesn’t bust your budget, I say get what you want from Nikon and go take photos. Life’s too short to wait for the possibility of Canon maybe releasing something at an undetermined time in the future.
 
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I would love to see a Canon equivalent of the Nikkor Z 600 f/6.3 VR S as an addition to my Canon 100-500.

It is small and light enough to travel with relatively easily and much cheaper than a Canon RF 600mm f/4 L IS USM.

The Nikkor f/6.3 lens is obviously far less capable than the Canon f/4 lens but it would meet my wants / needs far better than the Canon RF 600mm f/11 IS STM.
 
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These are the lenses which would spark my interest. I don't necessarily need them, at least not all of them. Only real need is a fast UWA prime.

RF 20mm F1.4 or any UWA prime between 12-20mm with at least F2 aperture
RF 70-135 or 150mm F2 with less than 1 kg weight
RF 20-70mm F4
RF extender 1.4 & 2.0 that are fully compatible with the RF 100-500mm
RF 85mm F1.4
 
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RF 20-70 F4
RF 14 1.8
These are the two sony lenses i really regret not having on EOS R system. I would sell 24-105 for 20-70 in a heartbeat.
I would take either of those lenses, assuming reasonable size/weight.

Other than those, I am waiting on a rumored:
  • 50-150 f/2 (or some variation, 50-135, 70-150). But a continuation of the f/2 zoom lineup.
  • 200-500 f/4 hopefully with built in 1.4x TC.
 
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My vote is for a 200-600 f/4 to f/5.6 DO L lens that weighs less than 5 lbs and costs around $6,000 to $7,000.

Based on my education from people on this forum, this is probably still unrealistic with respect to price.

I want more than my 100-500 f/4.5 to f/7.1, less than a 200-500 f/4, even if it has a built in 1.4x teleconverter, and more than the competitors’ 200-600 f/4.5 to f/6.3 alternatives on a price adjusted basis.

I love my Canon cameras (R5M2 and R6M2) and want to be patient about waiting for the lenses that I want rather than jumping brands.

The 200-800 f/6.3 to f/9 is great in theory but it does not work after 30-60 mins before sunset or for 30-60 mins before sunrise which excludes most of the great light in Africa and elsewhere.
 
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