None whatsoever.Does Canon UK provide any other advantages eg CPS membership for non-pros? Canon Australia got rid of their workshop/try-buy events/staff and run very lean now. CPS is restricted to pros under registered companies and with specific gear only.
Well, it's 1.2 v 1.4, so of course the new one is cheaper...ha...yeah, I am more laughing as I didn't believe the rumors that the 50 f/1.4 was coming. Then to see it at a lower price point.....that was the cause of sadness. We'll see about size/weight/performance, but the 35 f/1.4 seems stellar.
I am positive you will be impressed! It is a very very fine piece of glassI actually have not had time to play with the 50 f/1.2 much yet. Just a few test shots and the difference between it and the Sigma 50A was noticeable. I am looking forward to getting out and using it.
Much appreciated feedback! If I am reaching for a prime, I am after stellar IQ (and/or faster aperture!)I have the RF 35 1.4. While it does its job, I am not sure I would call it "stellar". Without software corrections I think "abysmal" would be more appropriate. With software corrections I think it is "good", but no superlatives. It is sharp, that's for sure, after software corrections. It doesn't have the magic of the 50 and 85 1.2
I am positive you will be impressed! It is a very very fine piece of glass
Ok, you win. Looking at the 16" M4 models compared to the M3, the M4 Max got shafted.Having used both, the fans do ramp more on the Max than the Pro chip.
I found this strange as well, it looks like the low end max only give you an extra memory channel and the better media engine. So unless you do very memory intensive work or need to work video lots of video streams in parallel, the Pro would offer similar performance.Ok, you win. Looking at the 16" M4 models compared to the M3, the M4 Max got shafted.
The 14" models saw similar gains in the M4 Pro models (1 or 2 more CPU cores, 2 more GPU cores, 6 more GB unified memory, and even the base M3 got 2 more CPU cores and the unified memory doubled from 8 to 16 GB.
- The M4 Pro added 2 CPU cores and 2 GPU cores to each of their configurations. The CPU cores on the M4 Pro are 10 performance and 4 efficiency, compared to 6 and 6 on the M3 Pro.
- The M4 Pro added 6 GB of unified memory to the base configuration and 12 GB to the high-spec configuration.
- The M4 Max base configuration added 2 GPU cores, and that's it. No added CPU cores, no added unified memory.
- The M4 Max high-spec configuration added nothing but its M4-ness. Same number of CPU and GPU cores, same unified memory.
Given the needs of Apple Intelligence, bumping the 8 GB of memory in the base M3 to 16 GB makes sense, and it's nice that the increased memory went right up the line...except that it stopped cold when it hit the M4 Max. Interestingly (and unfortunately, from my perspective), that means that when stepping 'up' from the high-spec M4 Pro to the low-spec M4 Max and spending an extra $600 to do so, you're getting the same number of CPU cores, 12 more GPU cores, and actually stepping down in unified memory, from 48 GB to 36 GB. When configuring an M4 Max 14/32, there's not even an option to get to the 48 GB of memory on the higher M4 Pro, you need to bump to the M4 Max 16/40 to get the 48 GB of memory. That one leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
IMO, the M4 updates are consistent with the fan noise / thermal issues reported for the M3 Max – the M3 Pro ran pretty cool (as did the M3 base), so there was ample room to add cores without undue thermal consequences. The M3 Max, and especially the high-spec 16 CPU/40 GPU version, was already at the edge of the thermal envelope (or even a little beyond if throttling was happening), leaving little to no room for increases...so the M4 Max base-spec got a little increase, and the M4 Max high-spec got none. I suspect the outcome of that will be that the fan speeds of the M4 Max will be similar to those of the M3 Max under load.
I wanted to want the M4 Max. However, in this case, the comparative lack of love for the M4 Max compared to the M4 Pro means I ended up preordering the 16" M4 Pro (14-core CPU/20-core GPU, 2 TB SSD).
Thanks again for the feedback!
The Max's GPU should be a pretty significant benefit if you do GPU intensive work (or play) at all.I found this strange as well, it looks like the low end max only give you an extra memory channel and the better media engine. So unless you do very memory intensive work or need to work video lots of video streams in parallel, the Pro would offer similar performance.
The upgrade pricing is very favourable to apple! I’m firmly in the external storage camp, my photos are on an USB4 SSD, video and backups on a NAS.The Max's GPU should be a pretty significant benefit if you do GPU intensive work (or play) at all.
Wish their storage prices weren't so crazy still. $1k extra to get 4TB is insane
I like the little Samsung T7 SSDs a lot, I have a small stack of them. I am a bit overboard on backups, with a 5-4-1 strategy instead of 3-2-1. The '4' are two copies on a RAID1 NAS, and two copies on 4 TB SSDs so I can swap them as the '1' offsite backup when I go into the office once/week. Those drives are used to back up 5 Macs in the house via Time Machine. The only data I archive (i.e. have on external disks but not on my laptop) are RAW files >5 years old and 4K video files, and those are on the NAS (separate from the TM backups) and a second pair of T7 SSDs that I swap offsite (so, 4-4-1).The upgrade pricing is very favourable to apple! I’m firmly in the external storage camp, my photos are on an USB4 SSD, video and backups on a NAS.
I do really think it reflects the Max silicon being thermally problematic, there's just not enough headroom to improve performance. Also, for the M4 it look like Apple has started providing separate battery life estimates for Pro vs. Max, and the Max has 12% less (21 hrs vs 24 hrs for the Pro). That extra power is going somewhere, and part of that somewhere is heat.I found this strange as well, it looks like the low end max only give you an extra memory channel and the better media engine. So unless you do very memory intensive work or need to work video lots of video streams in parallel, the Pro would offer similar performance.
It looks like getting a Mac laptop for the new job is a no go, so I’ll have to get my own before the next family trip, which will be around May. Enough time to do more research and watch for deals.I do really think it reflects the Max silicon being thermally problematic, there's just not enough headroom to improve performance. Also, for the M4 it look like Apple has started providing separate battery life estimates for Pro vs. Max, and the Max has 12% less (21 hrs vs 24 hrs for the Pro). That extra power is going somewhere, and part of that somewhere is heat.