It is not true that the high MP body will be more desirable or will sell more. No no no. And no, R1 will not be the high MP body. R1 is designed to be the best high-speed/durable/all-purpose body.
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The “3 Series” to continue after the EOS R3?
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I dont think so. Only R1 Mark 2 will be an upgraded R1. And R3 Mark 2 will be upgraded R3. Of course there will be matching specs, but thats allIf they want to release R3 in 2026 then I think... it will be just upgraded R1, because at that time everyone who wants R1 will have it already.). All R1 owners will start looking for new shiny, tiny toy like R3mk2. Then 2 years later in 2028 we will have R1mk2 which will be... upgraded R3 mk2, because Canon just needs money and users new body.
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I gotta say... Do people really think switching cameras every two years would be desirable?If they want to release R3 in 2026 then I think... it will be just upgraded R1, because at that time everyone who wants R1 will have it already.
Maybe I'm just weird and stupid, but when I switch cameras, you have to give me very darn good reason to, because that process suuuucks ass.
Learning a new button layout, getting to know new menues, developing a new workflow within the new functions... Takes weeks for me to really find my way with a new camera. Just made that transition with the R5II. If you were to release a potential replacement in 2026, you'd have to give me godly features to make me switch again.
And I don't even rely on my ability to work fast and accurate with my camera, to make money.
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Totally agree. Besides, it takes time for technology to evolve and get implemented into gear/computers etc.
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The R3 line sitting inbetween the professional flagship R1 series and the high megapixel R5 series is difficult to get a grip on. The form factor, slightly smaller than R1, is one thing. That\'s good for most enthusiasts, as is the integrated vertical grip. It\'s purpose as a proving grounds for new tech got hurt by both the R1 and R5 having eye-control AF, a technology that should trickle down to more bodies eventually. But now it can\'t be high-MP because of the R5. And it can\'t be a slightly toned down R1. It could have been an APS-C equivalent to the R1 but that ship kind of sailed, or did it? It\'s the one spot where it could be allowed to be both high MP and a speed demon sporting the very latest sensor and AF tech.
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It seems my scribblings were interpreted differently to how I meant them. I was NOT suggesting for a second that the IDx Mark II is a superior camera to a R1, nor a R3 or even a R6 Mark II for that matter. What I meant was when the IDx Mark III was released, it was clearly a camera worthy of the title "flagship". That moniker should have passed to the R1, but many people argue the R5 Mark II is more worthy of taking the crown than the R1, so such is the dilemma Canon faces. All the hype leading up to the R1 meant many of us were expecting a new camera that knocked the wow factor out of the park but instead it was a somewhat lacklustre affair, so much so many reviewers questioned and still do if it is really a R3 Mark II. I'm not into conspiracies at all and yes I believe man landed on the moon and no I don't believe thunder means some deity is angry with us. I've been using Canon exclusively for 40 years since my first AE1 program, and I would be in nirvana if they managed to add autofocus and a reasonable sensor to my old beloved T90 which when I got that blew my socks off. My most recent camera the R6 Mark II has mega impressed me with it's capabilites but I look at the R1 and the price tag and think hohum, that is what we waited all this time for? Is the R1 a brilliant beast, probably; is it worthy of the title flagship, I'm yet to be convinced, not helped by such a narrow gap between the new R1 and the very capable R3. As for tinfoil hats, so many regulars in here think a "global shutter" will the holy grail, yet Sony's attempts at it have been disappointing on the image quality front, so I'm happy to wait for Canon to get a sensor that does a sample and hold of every cell over the entire sensor area simultaneously that can outperform all the current devices on dynamic range and low light performance before I start banging my fists about where is the global shutter. Other vendors have released it and in my opinion they did it too soon as the performance or lack of suggests it was premature celebration. I'll leave the tinfoil hats for anyone who thinks life will be sweet if Trump gets back in. </ falls off soapbox >
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True, if the number of pixels actually matters compared to how must actual resolution those pixels carry. The R3's 24mp sensor out-resolves the 5D4's 30mp by some margin. Not all pixels are the same or are like for like. I've not seen the comparison, but it wouldn't suprise me if the current R5ii's 45mp sensor comfortably out resolves other 50mp+ sensors.
Regardless of our own use case scenario, 24mp for pro-sports orientated cameras is here for a long time to come. Canon have stated this many times, their line up is 24mp & 45mp...get used to it, this is how it is. Effectively the mega pixel numbers war is well and truely over.
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Pretty sure the photography world would be a better and more wholesome place if we discard the desire to call our tools flagship.
I know the manufacturers also tend to use that terminology, but that doesn't make it less stupid.
It's just an invitation for banter and unnecessary size comparisons.
I know the manufacturers also tend to use that terminology, but that doesn't make it less stupid.
It's just an invitation for banter and unnecessary size comparisons.
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Ah, but if we're going to follow the rules strictly, the flagship has always been named with the pattern: Canon <series name>-1
Canon F-1
Canon A-1
Canon EOS-1
That pattern was so religiously obeyed that there were three successive flagships all named Canon F-1.
Canon EOS R1 does not fit the pattern so they're just tricking us with the Canon EOS R1 being the "flagship" and the real flagship will come when the Canon EOS R1 is replaced with the Canon R-1.
(Sorry, just couldn't resist)
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I agree that there is not much to differentiate between R1 & R5 as of the moment unless new tech (e.g. spatial sensors for better depth of field (e.g. Dual Pixel but with wider gap) or similiar) and or new CMOS sensor on the horizon and use the R3 as a test bed model for that.
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That is not why.
Having 2 cameras so close in functionality and spec did not and still does not make much sense.
I will not speculate on what the R3 II would be but it would need to be different enough from the R1 and R5 II.
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So you didn’t mean for them to be interpreted as if you were just making asinine comments with no thought behind them? If so, then why did you double down?
The only “dilemma“ is in your head. The 1D X III was the flagship, and it has now been supplanted by the R1. You don’t have to like either camera, but that’s reality. Try to come to grips with it.
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It wouldn’t if they were the same price. But the R3 is three years older and 1/3 cheaper, putting it at the price point of the R5II. It makes perfect sense.
Would you argue that it makes no sense to have both the R8 and the RP in the lineup? Same logic, and even if it doesn’t make sense to you, it apparently makes sense to the company that dominates the camera market. I think they know more about this stuff.
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hah. fair enough my friend.
I don't want to go full on "twitter mode" in here, but there are times the ramblings of those who don't know anything about the 1 series are just ramblings.
The R1 was right where I expected it to be - the only surprise for me was that they kept up the slight change from the 1DX ergonomics.
The R5 Mark II is not anywhere close to a Canon flagship, and those people who think so need a good dose of common sense that obviously has escaped them.
oops .. slight twitter mode
BUT historically the 5D supplanted the 1Ds - but it never supplanted the 1DX.
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or , it would be Canon EOS-R-1 and minds will explodeAh, but if we're going to follow the rules strictly, the flagship has always been named with the pattern: Canon <series name>-1
Canon F-1
Canon A-1
Canon EOS-1
That pattern was so religiously obeyed that there were three successive flagships all named Canon F-1.
Canon EOS R1 does not fit the pattern so they're just tricking us with the Canon EOS R1 being the "flagship" and the real flagship will come when the Canon EOS R1 is replaced with the Canon R-1.
(Sorry, just couldn't resist)
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