Canon EOS R3 Mark II planned for 2025
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Absolutely agree and I would want the flexibility for all of the reasons that you mentioned especially new patents, new technology, and changing market demands.
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What makes you think the R3 II is coming so soon?
Canon certainly has not rushed out the R1.
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This thread is about a rumoured 2025 release for the R3II, and it’s 2024 now
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This aged so poorly considering the measly 24mp purported for the R1 now...
I really hope there's an R1s release or the R3 II is a high mp version somehow, but I'm tired of waiting... canon has fallen so far behind the competition it's embarrassing.
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If the R5 II is 45 MP and stacked then that would mean Canon has not fallen behind the competition at all.
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So you’re using a Phase One at 150 MP, or a Fuji at 100 MP, correct? Or at least, you’re shooting Sony at 60 MP, right?
Why are you even here?
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And I consider everyone else behind Canon because nobody else is making a 24-105 f/2.8 lens - the most incredible professional lens that I can never go back from.
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They wouldn't be doing this without a good reason. I'm sort of struggling to see a distinctive difference vs the R1, especially at the same resolution. How fast is fast enough? I'm certainly no expert with action shooting, but the R3 seems pretty top notch to me and plenty fast.
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With the official release of the R1 being the same resolution as the R3, but with many refinements I personally don't see where Canon takes a R3 Mk2. If they put a global sensor in a R3 Mk2 in 2025 would they be hurting sales of the recently released R1? Does it make more sense to put a global sensor in a R1 Mk2 once they figure out how to improve the noise and low ISO dynamic range?
Alternatively, Canon could make a R3 Mk2 a higher resolution vertically gripped body, but who knows.
Alternatively, Canon could make a R3 Mk2 a higher resolution vertically gripped body, but who knows.
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The R1 is the R3 II; even Petapixel yesterday said it out of loud in their first hands-on video.
Or actually, probably R3 was already R1, and they rebadged it mid way; so they just introduced R1 II.
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Isn't it obvious? Canon is Doomed, and they know it. They're renaming cameras, releasing new cameras that are incremental updates to old cameras, putting out new lenses that rattle. All of that is just rearranging the deck chairs as the Canon Titanic sinks after colliding with the Sony Iceberg. Please, try to keep up.
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I think that’s the main question: If you were to make an R3 Mark II, what refinements would you make to it and what would that camera look like….it would look like the R1. I think the R1 will be a great camera, but I’m totally not in disagreement with people calling the R1 an R3 Mark II. I paid $6000 for my first R3 when it was released, but at the current price point of the R3, it’s a NO BRAINER for a very large majority of photographers out there. I don’t know where they would take an R3 Mark II without stepping on the toes of the R1. That formerly rumored R1 DGO sensor would have been a BIG selling point to differentiate them…
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What's in a name? Canon stated that the R3 wasn't deserving of the 1-series designation from a technological standpoint. It may be as simple as the cross-type AF that's available in the R1.
If you look at the big picture, it seems likely that the R3 is a one-and-done model. Canon could stop R3 production, keep it in the lineup as long as they units to sell, then discontinue it. There are many improvements in the R1 compared to the R3, but there are also many similarities between the two cameras. YouTubers will say the R1 is an R3 II to get clicks. The reality is the R1 arrived right on schedule as a mirrorless successor to the 1D X III. I'm not convinced there's a place for the R3 in the ongoing lineup. Time will tell.
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They may have felt that the camera was not enough from a performance/technology standpoint to be badged as the flagship, so they tuned it down in "number" to give it a different positioning and avoid complaints and debates; otoh if PetaPixel themselves just called the new R1 "a camera that feels like more an update to R3", I can see what would have happened if the R3 would have been badged as R1.
Of course it's just speculation, we're here for that, maybe R3 was always R3, only Canon knows; but certainly, now that we have both cameras on the market, I agree with PP that the R1 doesn't feel that much premium over the R3, and the latter is certainly the best buy now for sport/news professionals in terms of performance/cost, as it gives you 95% of an R1 for basically half of the price, as I heard it can be bought under 4000$.
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Yes I have a Fuji 100s.
But I’ve shot canon for 30+ years. I was blown away by the original 5D II and had planned to get the next 1Ds that came after that (assuming it was higher than 20mp) and instead it was lower and then they went with the 1Dx line. The 5D IV is the best thing they have made (in terms of features) there’s 1 thing I miss from the 5D II and that’s the zoom in-out buttons with your thumb. But the 5D IV is pretty perfect for what it is. The R5 and R5 II are both let-downs. My 5D IV has features it doesn’t (in particular in-camera GPS). I can’t believe the R5 II doesn’t have GPS. That alone means it’s useless. Especially since because the battery dies so fast with the viewfinder use connecting it to your phone is impossible since you have to turn it on and off all the time to make it last.
But I want a vertical grip. Consumers today like vertical shots and the R5 is too light to hold easily without hurting your wrists because it’s lens-forward heavy.
It’s not that the 45mp isn’t enough at this point, it’s that it’s in a camera with limited features that the R1 has, but the R1 has a low MP sensor.
I guarantee that if an R1s came out, it would sell like hotcakes. The Idea the 1 series is out of ready when the difference NOW is only $2,000…. Sure when the 5D II was $2,000 and the 1Dx was $6,000, the market wasn’t there. But when the R5 is $4,000 and the R1 is $6,000… it’s a lot more in-reach.
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