Canon EOS R5 Mark II firmware update coming this month

Apart from taking to much processor capacity and time to upscale RAW in camera, I suspect that this feature was developed for the R1, where (some) Pro’s have a jpg workflow for working under tight timescales, and the features is inherited by the R5 Mk II.
Can anyone provide more information on the jpg workflow?

I get that the images need to be sent (ethernet, wireless etc) to a central location but my interest is whether this process is changing to HEIF or maybe jpgXL in the future... smaller image size with better DR/colour bit depth.
 
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Can anyone provide more information on the jpg workflow?

I get that the images need to be sent (ethernet, wireless etc) to a central location but my interest is whether this process is changing to HEIF or maybe jpgXL in the future... smaller image size with better DR/colour bit depth.
Jeff Cable’s blog has some information:
 
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Interesting as Jeff seems to be editing his own images before sending ~45 shots in 45 minutes after each game 1500-2k images). I am guessing he is shooting raw (especially if adjusting white balance) and editing in PS although for the limited edits, LR is probably faster (IMO) and outputting smaller files (assumed jpg).

Would it be correct that other pros would edit their own images and the workflow would use jpg transmitted via ethernet/wireless?
 
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Interesting as Jeff seems to be editing his own images before sending ~45 shots in 45 minutes after each game 1500-2k images). I am guessing he is shooting raw (especially if adjusting white balance) and editing in PS although for the limited edits, LR is probably faster (IMO) and outputting smaller files (assumed jpg).

Would it be correct that other pros would edit their own images and the workflow would use jpg transmitted via ethernet/wireless?
I think it depends on the employer/press agency the photographer is affiliated with. The USOPC/USA Water Polo doesn't seem to require photos to be sent to them immediately.

Here is an overview of Getty's workflow for Paris 2024: https://www.axios.com/2024/08/08/getty-olympics-simoone-biles-rebeca-andrade-photo. Their photo editors are not in Paris at all, and their goal seems to be to get photos out on wires in less than 30 seconds from when it was taken. With that sort of time constraints, photographers couldn't possibly edit their own photos.
 
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Interesting as Jeff seems to be editing his own images before sending ~45 shots in 45 minutes after each game 1500-2k images). I am guessing he is shooting raw (especially if adjusting white balance) and editing in PS although for the limited edits, LR is probably faster (IMO) and outputting smaller files (assumed jpg).

Would it be correct that other pros would edit their own images and the workflow would use jpg transmitted via ethernet/wireless?
There are many different kinds of sports photographers with varying workflows.
Jeff does not have the workflow you were referring to.
 
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The feature I\'d most like to see is camera-controlled focus limits. The way it would work, is you focus at a distant object, select that, then focus on a near subject, select that. Now the camera is constrained to focus in that range (until canceled).
 
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I’d appreciate if the camera would work out the required number of steps by itself.
Indeed, I almost added a note that the microscope software suggests the appropriate number of steps (including Nyquist-criterion oversampling) based on the confocal pinhole diameter, and that a camera could do so based on aperture and focus distance (except the latter would probably not be very accurate on an ILC, especially at macro distances).
 
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Indeed, I almost added a note that the microscope software suggests the appropriate number of steps (including Nyquist-criterion oversampling) based on the confocal pinhole diameter, and that a camera could do so based on aperture and focus distance (except the latter would probably not be very accurate on an ILC, especially at macro distances).
I can imagine the software figuring it out with a couple 'test shots' before going through the sequence.
 
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Yeahhh, it’s not great, that’s for sure. But the good news is that it has only happened between recording and not during recording. I was shooting 4K60 and maybe about 45 minutes into shooting clips, I got this screen. I couldn’t get it to happen again that day. But, it would happen 3 more times over the course of my use.

New BUG today: shot 3 photos in a row at 5fps in electronic shutter and the screen went black (made the electronic shutter sound for each shot) those 3 photos never recorded and they weren’t on the memory card.

Keep in mind, I’ve had this camera since it shipped last month. I’ve shot 5 motorsports events with it as an 3rd camera or used in the pits and have roughly 15,000 photos on one of the bodies already. I’m actually surprised I haven’t discovered more problems. My original R5 froze OFTEN until a few firmware updates and has been flawless ever since. My R3 to this day will “once in a blue moon” freeze or have an error. I use those bodies almost every single day to shoot photo and video in a pretty demanding environment and consider them totally reliable.

The R5II hasn’t thrown an error code yet. Just a few freezes and small quirks that have come up…like being EXTREMELY slow to turn on when a 1TB card from ProGrade or Angelbird is inserted, but will instantly turn on when a 325GB ProGrade is inserted.

These are the growing pains of being an early adopter. I never show up anywhere with fewer than 3 camera bodies and lots of memory cards and batteries. I’m mixing the R5II in where I can and it has been working well. I wouldn’t be too concerned. It’s going to be an absolute powerhouse for video production and photography - no doubt.
thanks for in depth report. Its always great to here from other profesisonals who ACTUALY use the cameras, that many guys in the forums only speculate about :D
Also these heavy use cases realy show which features actualy work and are important and which features are only relevent to youtube advertisers (aka "reviewers") =)

May I ask: did you use the Wifi Option? Its so incredible annoying and horrific on the R5 I ... did they improve it?
I just got an insta360 camera - its INCREDIBLE quick and reliable at connecting to the phone. Its lovely to have a liveview, control and download options in a matter of mere seconds. I wish canon would implement such a high quality connection...
 
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thanks for in depth report. Its always great to here from other profesisonals who ACTUALY use the cameras, that many guys in the forums only speculate about :D
Also these heavy use cases realy show which features actualy work and are important and which features are only relevent to youtube advertisers (aka "reviewers") =)

May I ask: did you use the Wifi Option? Its so incredible annoying and horrific on the R5 I ... did they improve it?
I just got an insta360 camera - its INCREDIBLE quick and reliable at connecting to the phone. Its lovely to have a liveview, control and download options in a matter of mere seconds. I wish canon would implement such a high quality connection...
WiFi still sucks when trying a peer to peer connection. Works better if you connect it to your home network. USB works well too
 
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Indeed, I almost added a note that the microscope software suggests the appropriate number of steps (including Nyquist-criterion oversampling) based on the confocal pinhole diameter, and that a camera could do so based on aperture and focus distance (except the latter would probably not be very accurate on an ILC, especially at macro distances).
The EF macro lenses had much better resolution in their position encoders compared to their non-macro counterparts, so I’ll assume the RF lenses aren’t worse :)
Apart from that, the manual implies that the overlap setting in the camera takes in account the aperture and focus distance, so it is already doing the calculations we are talking about.
 
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thanks for in depth report. Its always great to here from other profesisonals who ACTUALY use the cameras, that many guys in the forums only speculate about :D
Also these heavy use cases realy show which features actualy work and are important and which features are only relevent to youtube advertisers (aka "reviewers") =)

May I ask: did you use the Wifi Option? Its so incredible annoying and horrific on the R5 I ... did they improve it?
I just got an insta360 camera - it’s INCREDIBLE quick and reliable at connecting to the phone. It’s lovely to have a liveview, control and download options in a matter of mere seconds. I wish canon would implement such a high quality connection...
They get paid for clicks, drama, and affiliate links. It’s hard to trust anything those people say, save for a handful of people who responsibly test products and are cautious to present their opinions as factual statements. How I use a camera is different than the next person and the next person. It’s valuable to isolate criteria that is important to you and drown out the rest of the noise.

Admittedly, I haven’t used WiFi on my original R5 in a very long time. So I don’t have a good point of reference to compare it to. But I use WiFi on my R6II and R3 bodies all the time. I used it on the R5II to share this image to the media tower so they could get something out ASAP. It works well and if you’re simply transferring over full resolution JPEGS, the process is rather snappy. I have an iPhone and the new app is certainly more reliable to connect to the cameras, but I still on occasion find myself closing the app and reopening it to make it work - sometimes several times. That can be frustrating. The other options would be to just keep it connected to the app and drain the battery even quicker. (I’m getting what feels like very poor battery life on my R5II)

For me, WiFi is just a “nice to have” feature that I wish was better, but thankful to have it all. Back when I was using the 1DXII, the WiFi module was so expensive that I began to shoot JPEGS to another car and had a $80 WiFi card reader thing that I could connect to and browse the files and transfer to my phone to send images back to the media tower. Really clunky. The original R5 was a big upgrade over that workflow, even with the old, less reliable app and connectivity. (I’ve only shot tethered with LAN when I briefly shot for Ford’s NASCAR program and that was a mess in itself. We had a dedicated IT guy that would run the lines and set up the connections before each race. Not to mention you always have a cable sticking out of the side of your camera.)

DJI and Insta360 certainly have figured out how to make connections work reliably. I don’t know if it’s Canon’s app, or the WiFi module itself, but I will still have an occasional issue connecting to it. It’s still SIGNIFICANTLY better than connecting to my Fujifilm app or the Sony app (with older bodies).
 
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The EF macro lenses had much better resolution in their position encoders compared to their non-macro counterparts, so I’ll assume the RF lenses aren’t worse :)
Apart from that, the manual implies that the overlap setting in the camera takes in account the aperture and focus distance, so it is already doing the calculations we are talking about.
The original EOS 3 (and other film bodies as well) had the DEP mode where you could select the nearest and furthest point and the camera would calculate and set the focus distance and aperture to get the correct depth of field.
With improved AF and processors etc. it should not be too hard to have the same function for focus stacking.

See: https://support.usa.canon.com/kb/s/article/ART117935?
 
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