Is a Canon EOS R7 Mark II coming this year? [CR2]

The introduction cadence of the 7 series suggests you may be waiting for quite some time.
It is interesting to think about. If everyone that wants an R7ii more similar to the 7D and 7Dii ha bought one quickly, it should help influence Canon to decide to make an R7ii sooner, but would it affect the doward shift towards 90D like features to bring it back up?
 
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It is interesting to think about. If everyone that wants an R7ii more similar to the 7D and 7Dii ha bought one quickly, it should help influence Canon to decide to make an R7ii sooner, but would it affect the doward shift towards 90D like features to bring it back up?
My main issue with the R7 is not it being an R90, but the slow sensor dragging everything down. But I’m a fair weather fotographer :)

Prediction: R7II will have a 24MP stacked sensor, no other resolutions are allowed ;)
 
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My main issue with the R7 is not it being an R90, but the slow sensor dragging everything down. But I’m a fair weather fotographer :)

Prediction: R7II will have a 24MP stacked sensor, no other resolutions are allowed ;)
An aps-c 24mp stacked would be good enough for me, but I have difficulty thinking they wouldn't decide on a higher mp due to my perception of highest mp being a spec more people seem attracted to than sensor speed. This is definitely something I want to be wrong about and even more if they could do global without terrible iso.
 
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An aps-c 24mp stacked would be good enough for me, but I have difficulty thinking they wouldn't decide on a higher mp due to my perception of highest mp being a spec more people seem attracted to than sensor speed. This is definitely something I want to be wrong about and even more if they could do global without terrible iso.
All these wishes are consistent with a camera priced closer to the 7D II intro price (close to $2400 in today's currency). I was surprised to see how low the price of the R7 was on introduction. Canon was clearly shooting for a much larger market than an APS-c camera priced similarly to an R6 would have achieved. Canon's moves in APS-c suggest that we may never see the unicorn that some are hoping for, or at least not see it until the required technology is much more commonplace so the price point can stay in the volume market. It is certain we will not see a mini R1 at least until the R1 is well established and a mini R1 is what you all are wishing for. At the present time, the Fuji X2-HS is the only APS-C camera with a stacked sensor that comes to mind and there you are at $2500 and that doesn't include the complexity of DPAF.
 
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Besides the lack of dpaf, I don’t think there's any 400 f2.8 or 600 f/4 for Fuji x
Sure you can adapt an ef, but I think the autofocus will suffer. I haven't really looked into that because I'm happy with the R5.
If anyone knows about EFon Fuji X compared to EF on R or RF on R, I would be interested to se test results
 
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Besides the lack of dpaf, I don’t think there's any 400 f2.8 or 600 f/4 for Fuji x
Sure you can adapt an ef, but I think the autofocus will suffer. I haven't really looked into that because I'm happy with the R5.
If anyone knows about EFon Fuji X compared to EF on R or RF on R, I would be interested to se test results
I was only using the Fuji as an example to point out the likely price point of an R7 II that lived up to some of wishes of the previous commenters, but you are correct that Fuji does not have the long lens contingent that Canon offers.
 
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I’m new to the Canon Rumors site but I have been a longtime user of canon products. I live in Montana approx 20 miles from the north entrance to Yellowstone National Park. Needless to say my passion is wildlife photography. In January of this year I purchased the R7. Based on my past purchases with canon I feel this is not a product I would recommend to anyone. I trash 80 percent of my photos from this camera due to soft focus issues. I’ve tried many different settings and watched many videos from other photographers who use this product. I also have the R 200-800 lens and see no improvement. I hope the new products canon plans to release have a better focusing system and larger body for hand held shots.
 
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I’m new to the Canon Rumors site but I have been a longtime user of canon products. I live in Montana approx 20 miles from the north entrance to Yellowstone National Park. Needless to say my passion is wildlife photography. In January of this year I purchased the R7. Based on my past purchases with canon I feel this is not a product I would recommend to anyone. I trash 80 percent of my photos from this camera due to soft focus issues. I’ve tried many different settings and watched many videos from other photographers who use this product. I also have the R 200-800 lens and see no improvement. I hope the new products canon plans to release have a better focusing system and larger body for hand held shots.
I suggest that you continue to try to learn more about the camera. If you are not doing the following already, use Elec 1st curtain, and keep your fps at 15 or lower. Assign a button to toggle between your AF zones. Assign a button to turn off eye and subject detection for shooting in cluttered fore or backgrounds, or if too distant to see the eye. Also consider sending in your camera for repair.. I easily get between 80-90% keepers. Getting only 20% keepers tells me that there is something fundamentally wrong or not set correctly.
 
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I’m new to the Canon Rumors site but I have been a longtime user of canon products. I live in Montana approx 20 miles from the north entrance to Yellowstone National Park. Needless to say my passion is wildlife photography. In January of this year I purchased the R7. Based on my past purchases with canon I feel this is not a product I would recommend to anyone. I trash 80 percent of my photos from this camera due to soft focus issues. I’ve tried many different settings and watched many videos from other photographers who use this product. I also have the R 200-800 lens and see no improvement. I hope the new products canon plans to release have a better focusing system and larger body for hand held shots.
The R7 is an excellent camera when or if you know how to use it. The RF 200-800 in my opinion and for good reason is not a lens designed for the R7. It's a bit soft at the long end and f/9 is too narrow for the 32 Mpx APS-C sensor. The RF 100-500mm is more suitable, and the RF 100-400mm works surprisingly well with the R7. You can see my tests here; https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/summary-of-my-rf-200-800mm-testing.43239/
 
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The R7 is an excellent camera when or if you know how to use it. The RF 200-800 in my opinion and for good reason is not a lens designed for the R7. It's a bit soft at the long end and f/9 is too narrow for the 32 Mpx APS-C sensor. The RF 100-500mm is more suitable, and the RF 100-400mm works surprisingly well with the R7. You can see my tests here; https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/summary-of-my-rf-200-800mm-testing.43239/
All that said, I still find that I get really good pictures with r7/200-800 combo. I often need the reach and the lens bare with the R7 seems a bit sharper than the same lens with a 1.4 TC on the R5 with almost identical pixels on the bird. Dynamic range and focus behavior are very similar between the two setups, so the slight sharpness improvement added to the lighter weight package causes me to lean to the R7 when I need the reach. If I need every last bit of resolution, then I will pop a TC on the EF 800 f/5.6 L and use the R5, but the difference is just not that much. Really, just the diffraction difference for the most part.
 
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Prediction: R7II will have a 24MP stacked sensor, no other resolutions are allowed ;)
Wink aside, has Canon ever released a "Mark" body with lower resolution than its predecessor? I can't think of any.

I know the old trope that "resolution isn't everything", but, in my experience, a large proportion of the folks using the R7, and the 7Dii and 90D, are using them with long lenses to capture small distant subjects such as BIF, wildlife, and sports. Even if you're not making billboard-size prints, having more pixels on subject gives you more crop-ability.

(I use my R7 for BIF, but my "birds" typically have metal wings and propellers)
 
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Wink aside, has Canon ever released a "Mark" body with lower resolution than its predecessor? I can't think of any.
I can only think of one instance and it is not quite a direct "Mark N+1" situation. The original 1DX was pitched as a successor to both the 1D Mark IV and the 1Ds Mark III and that had lower resolution (18 MP vs 21 MP) compared to the 1DsIII.

From the original press release:
As the new leader in Canon’s arsenal of professional DSLRs, the EOS-1D X will be a high-speed multimedia juggernaut replacing both the EOS-1Ds Mark III and EOS-1D Mark IV models in Canon’s lineup.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions but I do know how to use the camera and have own everything from a Canon Rebel to a 1DX, 600 prime lens and many other products including their workhorse 7D. The R7 for me isn’t as good as promoted and if canon is coming out with a R7 II so soon after the initial release of the R7 they obviously know there are issues with the camera.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions but I do know how to use the camera and have own everything from a Canon Rebel to a 1DX, 600 prime lens and many other products including their workhorse 7D. The R7 for me isn’t as good as promoted [...]
I get it, not every model is good for every shooter, and even for a great camera, Canon sometimes ships a lemon. Lots of folks loved the 7D Mark II, but mine was a dog. My Sony a6400 ran rings around it (using adapted EF lenses, no less), which is why the Sony is still in my gear list and the 7D2 is long gone. OTOH, I love my R7. I'm limited by my own abilities rather than the camera's, and I can't think of anything a "Mark II" could add that would change that.

[...] and if canon is coming out with a R7 II so soon after the initial release of the R7 they obviously know there are issues with the camera.
The rumor mill has been pretty quiet about an R72, other than a lot of wishful thinking in internet forums. But by your logic, there must have been some pretty big problems with the R6 for Canon to replace it after only 2 years and 4 months, but I don't recall hearing about them. We still have about two months to go to get to that point in the R7's timeframe (announced late May, 2022), but by this time after the R6 launch, rumors of the R62 were pretty rampant. R72 rumors? Crickets.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions but I do know how to use the camera and have own everything from a Canon Rebel to a 1DX, 600 prime lens and many other products including their workhorse 7D. The R7 for me isn’t as good as promoted and if canon is coming out with a R7 II so soon after the initial release of the R7 they obviously know there are issues with the camera.
I agree. I bought a r7 to replace my 7d mII. But within a week I returned the r7. It just doens't meet the high standards of the 7d mII. In my opinion the 7d mII is far superior to the r7. I can't wait for a r7 mark II as a REAL successor of the 7d mII.
 
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I am currently using a 7D MK II and if canon produced a mirrorless equivalent of that model, with the same levels of functionality, customisation, waterproofing, card slots AND battery grip I would invest in mirrorless. I shoot Sports and Aviation and you need the battery grip to balance the camera when using long lenses. Even on my first DSLR (450D) I used a battery grip and it helps greatly with long lenses. Canon is well able to deliver us APS-C camera at a price point which is not ridiculous!
 
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I am currently using a 7D MK II and if canon produced a mirrorless equivalent of that model, with the same levels of functionality, customisation, waterproofing, card slots AND battery grip I would invest in mirrorless. I shoot Sports and Aviation and you need the battery grip to balance the camera when using long lenses. Even on my first DSLR (450D) I used a battery grip and it helps greatly with long lenses. Canon is well able to deliver us APS-C camera at a price point which is not ridiculous!
As an 18-year APS-C Canon shooter, I went mirrorless when the R7 came out two years ago. Mainly used full-frame glass with it until the Sigma RF-S 18-50mm f/2.8 DC DN came out this July.

Eventually added an R6 Mark II to get better low noise performance. No sign of an R7 II - in your situation, I'd be looking at the R5 (which is dropping in price since the R5 II came out), for the increased reach. Almost got one myself but decided I'd rather have two SDXC card slots than one of those and one Compact Flash slot. Call Canon sales and ask them if they'll give you their Loyalty discount of 20% on a new R5 (or 15% on a refurb) based on your 7D MK II's serial number - they let you keep the old camera.
 
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