An APS-C sensor in a gripped body seems very unlikely. APS-H isn’t coming back, either.
But I can certainly see a global shutter R7II happening.
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Canon has a global shutter camera in the pipeline
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But I can certainly see a global shutter R7II happening.
For what it!'s worth, the A9iii doesn't take any better pictures than the A9Ii. The global shutter was invented by Kodak back in the 70s. Not new technology for one to be fawning over. Especially when losing a stop or two of the dynamic range one plops down hard earned cash for. I believe that this is another head fake simply to get Sony to jump. The A9III isn't exactly shaking the market. There are plenty of them "In Stock"
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A global sensor in a R7II would make sense. I also suspect that by 2028 that the R1 Mk2 will also have a global sensor.
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Challenging issues? There is no perfecf camera. Its a low resolution camera. For price one is paying for 1970s technology it better do somthing damn good. At least a Hasselblad offers high resolution images and an internal hard drive for it's price tag. LED flicker problem in one's work can be solved with some skill and talent.
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We are already at 2ms readout speed in 2024. Its not 1975. So what's the visible performance difference between 1ms and 0.3ms? Nada. Unless you measure it on an o'scope or spectrum analyzer. But a few handfull of people want to spend all that moola and DR loss for "LED flicker". Put a storage flash drive inside with the R&D money.
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We are already at 2ms readout speed in 2024. Its not 1975. So what's the visible performance difference between 1ms and 0.3ms? N
They just are not being stupid. They were behind untill they walked everyone down by about two years with the R5. Same as they did with the 5D.
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I don't think that is the right basis for comparison. The basis for the CMOS sensor was invented in 1968, field effect transistors were first realized in the 1950s. Are we all paying for decades old technology?
A Hasselblad also offers hilarious rolling shutter for its price tag too.
From Steve Huff's Review: https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2017/09/17/__trashed-2/. I would rather have them fix this by placing a mechanical FP shutter in front of their sensor (like the GFX) so I can use adapted MF lenses and offer me two CFE slots rather than throwing some useless internal storage in the camera.
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After reading the headline my first thought was: Put it in the R7 ii with a 24ish MPix sensor. EDIT: So I support your idea of some R7ish camera to introduce it ... /EDIT
And if it has a 5msec readout @ 4k and true global shutter by some pixel binning and on-sensor-storage-mode for Full HD it would be a good choice if it keeps the good overall image quality Canon has achieved meanwhile.
Why do I see global shutter at Full HD as a great feature to keep cost down? - Fast scenes take processing power of our brains for speed which isn't available for pixel peeping at the same time. And two times the pixels (linearily) is much less important than avoiding jello which is irritating just during fast action.
And if it has a 5msec readout @ 4k and true global shutter by some pixel binning and on-sensor-storage-mode for Full HD it would be a good choice if it keeps the good overall image quality Canon has achieved meanwhile.
Why do I see global shutter at Full HD as a great feature to keep cost down? - Fast scenes take processing power of our brains for speed which isn't available for pixel peeping at the same time. And two times the pixels (linearily) is much less important than avoiding jello which is irritating just during fast action.
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I'm waiting for @Richard CR to discover the R100 mkII will have global shutter, but still no touchscreen
funny you should mention that
Craig and I were literally just talking about if Canon would do something like that. I'll write up my thoughts later
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Would an APS-C sized GS sensor not take an even bigger hit in IQ? Based on my understanding of GS the effective pixel sized is halfed to make space for the additional electronics required for the GS function. If it is too complicated or expensive to move it to a different place IQ should suffer, no?
In that case DR should be somewhere between M43 and 1" sensors for base ISO which, considering some peoples´ response to the A9III DR, would be unbearable
In that case DR should be somewhere between M43 and 1" sensors for base ISO which, considering some peoples´ response to the A9III DR, would be unbearable
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The most logical thing to me is a crop sensor global shutter cinema camera based on a similar sensor as the RED Komodo series, since that will probably be axed due to Nikon's aquisition of RED.
Some said previously that the Komodo sensor is based off a cropped R5 sensor with a global shutter mode.
Some said previously that the Komodo sensor is based off a cropped R5 sensor with a global shutter mode.
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The only thing making it unlikely is Canon not having done an integrated grip outside of the 1-series before. Yet they did it for the R3 so it's no longer strictly reserved for the professional flagship.
As far as sensor size, APS-H returning is unlikely but there's nothing to say a body with a smaller sensor couldn't have an integrated grip if it's aimed at an audience that want it. Case in point would be the OM-1X and Nikon's flagship bodies prior to moving to so called full frame. It's just a matter of whether Canon will go back to allowing only the flagship to have an integrated grip, which isn't entirely unlikely given what the competition offers.
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I wasn't trying to correct you, more to augment your calculations.
Great point about the AF between the images - I did not consider that in the 25msec-2.7msec= 22.3msec calculation. How meany readouts does the R1 do for AF? Say it is 100Hz, then the time to do convert the entire image is 10msec-2.7msec = 7.3msec - meaning it would require 3x faster conversion.
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<sarcasm>
it's funny how years ago, when Sony sensors were superior in terms of DR over Canon sensors, people on this forum were saying that that was not a material disadvantage...
And now that Canon has caught up in DR and Sony has made a sensor that sacrifices DR in favor of other advantages, that DR loss is intolerable.
</sarcasm>
Sorry I had to write this
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Hmmmm? Hasselblad uses leaf shutters (in their lenses) but I am not aware of one of their cameras having global shutter?
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The problem is that people use the term readout speed when they should use the term scan speed.Stacked and global shutters have memory on the sensor, which can hold data for each pixel. The Digic X can then takes its time to transfer that data to main memory.
A GS has no readout time, so the bandwidth needed would be infinite if readout and memory bandwidth were directly coupled
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That is not how Canon's model number pricing works.
The R3 price would be above the R5 and below the R1.
I do agree that there needs to be more to distinguish the feature set.
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