Rumored R6 Mark III Specifications

R6 body with the R3 sensor always made some sense to me for the next R6 iteration. Parts already exist, minimal R&D required, and allows Canon to stay at the top end of what is shaping to be one of the more competitive market segments these days.

A question remains where would an R3II fit in between this and the R1. Personally I think either the R3 line will be discontinued or the R3II will target a different niche. The people who are willing to spend twice the money to gain a grip are probably also the types who’d just spend the extra thousand bucks and get an R1 at that point.
 
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Will the R5ii's bad DR trickle down to the R6iii as well?

This camera hardly cries out BUY ME. No real innovation, just a few add ons to attach to the parts recycle bin. And you'll be able to steal this camera and sell it as well, since no security features. And because of insta's crap crop ratios, it would be nice of canon to maybe extend its range of ratios to match social media platforms and maybe even add ratios to raw files as well if thats possible. Think ahead Canon, c'mon. Every criticism thats's been levelled on the R5ii like wobbling etc, fix ALL of that, maybe throw in global shutter at an affordable price and beat sony. Improve the noise performance at iso6400 and higher. Make sure no reviewer can find any negatives about the camera.
Ah,, thank goodness! I was worried that we wouldn't get the usual total bullcrap post from bergstrom!
 
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RAW video internally is a massive win. Doesn't seem like there is a full frame 60fps raw option though which is a bit disappointing, but still 6K30fps is great.
I suspect similar body to an R6II -> dual UHS-II SD card slots -> same C80 limitations -> 6k30fps or 4k60fps cropped RAW
Has there ever been any indication or whisperings of C-log 2?
I suspect the software could be similar to an R3 -> no C-Log 2 compressed options.
I hope I am wrong. but I can't see an R6III bettering an R5II offering oversampled 4k60p + C-Log 2...
I'd like it to be better still, but an R3 sensor in a smaller body with most features retained at a lower price still looks very good.
 
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I suspect similar body to an R6II -> dual UHS-II SD card slots -> same C80 limitations -> 6k30fps or 4k60fps cropped RAW

I suspect the software could be similar to an R3 -> no C-Log 2 compressed options.
I hope I am wrong. but I can't see an R6III bettering an R5II offering oversampled 4k60p + C-Log 2...
I'd like it to be better still, but an R3 sensor in a smaller body with most features retained at a lower price still looks very good.
Since it's RAW video, the Gamma curve doesn't matter. While the R3 never had the option for it internally, when processing RAW in Davinci Resolve people typically switch the Gamma to C-Log2 and it is noticeably improved. Still, I don't think it would hurt for them to include it, they're up against Nikon's Z6III which is an extremely competitive camera. If anything it would make the R6 even more popular for filmmakers, as there are plenty who don't want an 8K camera like the R5. For me personally, it's too much. 6K60fps would be nice though, although maybe the price on a refurbished R3 will continue to go down
 
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Still, I don't think it would hurt for them to include it, they're up against Nikon's Z6III which is an extremely competitive camera.
Might look good on paper, but the reality is, the partially stacked Z6III sensor has more severe limitations: more limited dynamic range (both stills and video), considerably more rolling shutter with stills using the electronic shutter, and the AF system is still not as good as Canon or Sony.
So even if an R6III is mostly a further downgraded R3 with slower media, it may still sit on top of its class as an all-round hybrid camera.
 
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Dear Canon, please allow us to shut off your in body denoising.. I don’t want you touching my photos.

I got to say, some of my night time shots of Tokyo with this camera can look absolutely miraculous in terms of noise. I have one image in particular from Central shinjuku, and that is an area very sick with photographic eye candy. ..that it just looks so clean.. since it's one of my main images from there I constantly look at it and say to myself that this is nuts.

But then the daytime photos are flat as a board. granted, in really good light the files look amazingly clean, blue skies you would normally see some noise in, like the grain is almost non-existent. It's insane.

Embedded noise reduction give it and it taketh away. That's what I saw, and that's why I stopped using it.

My 2c
 
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I suspect similar body to an R6II -> dual UHS-II SD card slots -> same C80 limitations -> 6k30fps or 4k60fps cropped RAW

I suspect the software could be similar to an R3 -> no C-Log 2 compressed options.
I hope I am wrong. but I can't see an R6III bettering an R5II offering oversampled 4k60p + C-Log 2...
I'd like it to be better still, but an R3 sensor in a smaller body with most features retained at a lower price still looks very good.
R6 R6ii R8 does oversampling 4k60 already when R5 R5ii isn't, I'm sure R6iii retains and it will be a sweetspot for most people .
 
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Yes, the practice of complaining about a camera that hasn't even been announced yet does lack innovation - same old, same old.
To be fair, mirrorless cameras are supposed to be like smartphones, "cutting edge technology from year to year".

Re-using a 3-year-old sensor - not exactly innovative on its own. However, we can also suppose, that Canon took time to make the sensor's capabilities usable in a more compact body with a smaller battery using a newer, faster and more efficient processor, etc.
One could argue, it is basically A9-class that is even more rounded, yet it costs far less. Far superior to an A9II, below an A9III with more economical parts in places, yet also less compromised with regards to IQ with some features like internal RAW video.
It seems quite clear at this point that Canon does put more effort in the bodies, aiming to "take it back" with lenses.

One could also say, the image quality is not that much of a departure from an R6II for general usage (R3 vs R6II tests showcase that).
But the counterargument says: this upgrade just became a lot cheaper.
So if we look at the competition, they do even less "innovation for the masses",
Panasonic still dares to release an S5D, different sticker and software put on an S5 with a 7-year-old sensor, hilarious.

The performance of an A9III and Z6III (and also the specs of an R1 or the upcoming A1II possibly using the same sensor as an A1) seems to indicate that right now, there is a fine line between speed, image quality, size and heat constraints (and also what's feasible to manufacture from a business point-of-view). So in some regards it is not easy to go forwards without also going backwards.

But there is also a curious case of not providing features (or provide them in a limited capacity) that have been there in smartphones for years.
Especially odd considering these sensors have the readout speed to make use of those things, so in some ways all manufacturers are playing this game of not trying as hard as they could.


R6 R6ii R8 does oversampling 4k60 already when R5 R5ii isn't, I'm sure R6iii retains and it will be a sweetspot for most people .
It's not retaining per se, C-Log 2 would be adding something to an R3 sensor that wasn't there before, which would be let's say quite unusual for Canon, especially considering they don't talk about the R3 line being killed off.
 
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Canon made the original R6 too good of a camera for stills only shooters (unless you need high MP I guess). From what I have seen neither the R6II nor the rumored features of the R6III would tempt me to upgrade :giggle:
 
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I don’t think the poster you were replying to was referring to the in camera processing option. In any case, there is signal processing at the raw level on basically all digic X cameras based on the captured energy spectra. Some (bill claff probably most notable) have deemed this to be NR. Some analyses suggest that it is something else, though unclear what exactly.

R5ii notably appears to have less signal processing done to the raws than other recent Canon cameras. Similar to Sony’s A7R5 and A1 (but aren’t labeled as having NR on the photonstopixels site)
I think that's the Anti-Moiré/Anti-Aliasing filter. The first poster is just assuming that Canon does what other brands do.
 
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This is pretty much the baby EOS R1 everyone has been asking for, 95% of the performance of the big dog at half the price and half the weight / size.

You are only missing out on the eye-control AF and touch control selector that moves the AF points.
 
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