Ready for the Canon RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Z?

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koenkooi said:
The collar comes with a manual, the reports I’ve seen on the interwebs were all by people not following the manual.
That makes it a bad design, not untrustworthy.
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The manual is for the entire lens and there is not only how to put on the collar, but also how to put on the lens hood. So just because there's a manual for something doesn't necessarily mean it's poorly designed.
 
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photographer said:
The manual is for the entire lens and there is not only how to put on the collar, but also how to put on the lens hood. So just because there's a manual for something doesn't necessarily mean it's poorly designed.
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I’ll phrase it differently: it’s a bad design for people that don’t read the manual and assume the collar won’t open when the knob is NOT tightened.
 
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koenkooi said:
So far I've only seen the R50 marketed at vloggers and streamers, mostly using the kits that have camera, lens, mic and lights. Maybe the success of the ZV-E10 will make Canon consider an EVF-less model :)
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Maybe, but the success of the R50 might make that less of a consideration.
I still think they should.
The ZV-E10 and well-selling Z 30 have large mics, which make them purpose-built for vlogging.
IMHO Canon should make vlog camera with a flip-up screen and mics on top like the V10 has.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
I'm not a fan of the RF 24-105/2.8's tripod foot design. I'd prefer a removable ring like the EF versions of the 70-200/2.8 for that lens. Having said that, we're stuck with the 24-105/2.8 so I hope the 70-200/2.8 Z has the same foot design. I admit my reason is selfish – I don't plan to buy the 70-200 Z, but Really Right Stuff has not made a dedicated replacement foot for the 24-105/2.8 and I hope that if the 70-200/2.8 Z has the same foot, that will provide sufficient market incentive for RRS to make a replacement foot.
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I remember seeing your comment on the RRS foot, finally they made it.

 
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neuroanatomist said:
I'm in an analogous situation. My RF 70-200/2.8 has seen much less use after I got the RF 100-300/2.8.
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This is the question I have.

70-200 F2.8 Z & RF 100-500 F4.5-7.1 L vs. RF 100-300 F2.8?

I think the 70-200 F4 is good enough for sports and events for me because I very rarely shoot the 70-200 F2.8 wide open.
I'm leaning heavily towards the 100-300, pardon the pun :)
 
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EvilTed said:
This is the question I have.

70-200 F2.8 Z & RF 100-500 F4.5-7.1 L vs. RF 100-300 F2.8?

I think the 70-200 F4 is good enough for sports and events for me because I very rarely shoot the 70-200 F2.8 wide open.
I'm leaning heavily towards the 100-300, pardon the pun :)
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If we factor in the cost then you can get an extra camera with the 70-200 F2.8 Z & RF 100-500 F4.5-7.1 L.
If you plan on using one camera and switching lenses then you would probably be better of using the 100-300 with and without teleconverters.
 
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Bryan has the ISO 12233-type IQ test results up for the RF 70-200/2.8 Z. He tells me they're from the black version of the lens, lol. A bit improved relative to the non-Z version of the lens, as the MTF charts suggest it should be.

www.the-digital-picture.com

Canon RF 70-200mm F2.8 L IS USM Z Lens Image Quality

View the image quality delivered by the Canon RF 70-200mm F2.8 L IS USM Z Lens using ISO 12233 Resolution Chart lab test results. Compare the image quality of this lens with other lenses.
www.the-digital-picture.com www.the-digital-picture.com

I was briefly tempted by the new version. Not tempted enough to buy the new lens at this point, in large part because I've used my RF 70-200/2.8 a lot less since getting the 100-300/2.8.
 
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Get both.
The 70-200 is a lot lighter.

I'm either going to get a second R1 or the 100-300 F2.8 in January, depending how the R1 compared to the R3.
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If we factor in the cost then you can get an extra camera with the 70-200 F2.8 Z & RF 100-500 F4.5-7.1 L.
If you plan on using one camera and switching lenses then you would probably be better of using the 100-300 with and without teleconverters.
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100-500 is sold and I got a great price for it, even as Canon dropped the price by $300 :)
 
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I got the new 70-200mm today. I have rented the old 70-200mm f/2.8 in the past so I sort of know what to expect. The new lens seems to handle a bit better, image quality of both seems about equal. The IBIS seems improved vs the old lens. I had the original R5 with the rental, and now I have the R5 Mark II so that might be what accounts for the somewhat better IBIS I am not sure. Anyways it's a great lens, I took it outside and even though it was overcast I was able to keep the shutter speeds really high. I mostly shoot wildlife so the lens is of somewhat limited utility for me, but for the animals that allow a close approach or are very large, this is a much better choice than any of the stronger telephotos I've used. it's as good as the 100-300mm (which I have also rented) but its so much lighter and easier to handle. 300mm isn't really long enough either, and that lens is so expensive I think this is a good option. I will try it with the 1.4x extender when I get the chance. Maybe I'll even break down and buy the 2.0 extender soon!

I did get more rolling shutter wing distortions than I have been getting with this new camera though. I think its just bad luck but I had several nice shots I would have used but they had pretty bad wing distortion due to rolling shutter effect on them. I may go back to mechanical for the Hummingbird shots. The R5 Mark II is way better than the old R5 was, but it still has rolling shutter issues with hummingbirds.


My 70-200mm F2.8 Z photos from today -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/46506981@N03/albums/72177720321970523
 
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I got my 70-200 ver 2 today,
I shot 3 assignments with it.

Tomorrow I will drop my ver 1 lens, what a game changer!

part of me wonders if I should have taken a white one, just for super fast quick glance separation of the two, they look and feel the same, only the lens hood varies.

It feels so good in the hands, zooms nicely with just the thumb.

I have bashed canon many times for not having a 28 f2 and not bringing a 50 1.4 sooner, but when they do it.......it is good!




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Kiton said:
I got my 70-200 ver 2 today,
I shot 3 assignments with it.

Tomorrow I will drop my ver 1 lens, what a game changer!

part of me wonders if I should have taken a white one, just for super fast quick glance separation of the two, they look and feel the same, only the lens hood varies.

It feels so good in the hands, zooms nicely with just the thumb.

I have based canon many times for not having a 28 f2 and not bringing a 50 1.4 sooner, but when they do it.......it is good!




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I got a white one for that very reason. My old eyes would probably pack the wrong lens unless I was shooting both and the other reason is for the teleconverter :)
Now all I need to find is a cap for the mount when the foot is removed, which will be 99% of the time for me.
 
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