The Canon RF 35mm f/1.4L VCM is in stock, deliveries to customers start June 27

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byjohnburns said:
Mine shipped out early this afternoon; ordered two days after launch. I really doubt this lens will be hard to come by for those who choose to wait.
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I hope you’re right as I’d really like one but It’s already on Canon’s official back ordered list and it’s reported retailers are getting 50% of the stock they ordered.

I was also told by a retailer ongoing issues in the Red Sea are making it difficult for Canon to get stock to Europe.
 
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Originally I had a B&H pre-order from launch day, cancelled it to order locally within Canada.
So far mine has not shipped.

The retailer I ordered from has not received their supply yet. I also called another Canadian retailer who has not received supply.

Sad lesson learned if you want it ASAP, order from the US.
 
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JTP said:
Have you tried it yet? Oh the disappointment! He shares a few examples of charts and some poorly done portraits in bad lighting and environments. He gets upset when the lens doesn't react like a previous non-Canon lens when pointed directly at the sun. He also complains about the lens knocking around when it's off due to the new focusing system. Instead of this, why don’t people post videos showing real-world examples of professionals making a living with this lens? For those of us earning a full-time living with our cameras, his video is irrelevant in 99.9% of our shooting scenarios. People often focus on the negatives and miss out on what's great. In reality, this lens is far superior to any 35mm I've ever used.
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I get that you like to defend your purchase, but it isn’t as good as it should be, and relying on software to correct MASSIVE distortion and more CA than any other RF-L is pretty bad for an L. And that on top of flare issues etc doesn’t scream L-quality like the RF 50, RF 85 and RF 135 does. But, it’s also reflected in the price as it’s quite a bit cheaper. The EF 35 L II was a lot more expensive than the EF 50, 85 and 135 so I suspected it wouldn’t match the 50, 85 and 135, and looks like it didn’t either. Which begs the question; is this the only 35 L that will be released for the R-system, or is it the first of a new f1,4 lineup or just a single midrange like the EF 85 f1,4 L?

One might not see all the flaws in all real life situations, but using examples to show the issues is easy to transfer to real life and some shoot a lot where one or more issues appear and some don’t as much.

They focused it on video as much as photography, which doesn’t really work well. And for many, many users of the 35, myself included, it will never be used for video so the lack of focus breathing and the aperture ring is a complete waste.
 
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Viggo said:
They focused it on video as much as photography, which doesn’t really work well. And for many, many users of the 35, myself included, it will never be used for video so the lack of focus breathing and the aperture ring is a complete waste.
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Seemed to work ok for the 24-105/2.8L, though. For me also, the aperture ring is useless...but it's an excellent lens.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Seemed to work ok for the 24-105/2.8L, though. For me also, the aperture ring is useless...but it's an excellent lens.
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I’ll rephrase that, I wish they made the same priorities optically as with the 50 and 85, less focus on correcting focus breathing and more focus on correcting distortion, busy bokeh and CA. I view this lens differently than maybe Canon intended as I never shoot video. They hybrid shooters may love this, but as stills shooter I’m disappointed.
 
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JTP said:
Could you share any personal photos taken with the lens that didn't meet your expectations? Personally, I haven't noticed any significant differences between this lens and my 85mm or 50mm lenses. I use 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm lenses for 99% of a wedding day, and to me, the 35mm performs like an RF 50mm in 35mm form. I'd be curious to see some personal real world examples and comparisons from you that highlight the differences, as I haven't observed them myself.
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I’ll go back to my initial statement “ if he’s not straight up lying this is disappointing”. I didn’t really see any negative reviews of either 50 or 85. And btw, those two aren’t equal either, the 85 is quite a bit better in every regard. Your clients won’t be able to tell the difference, that we ageee on, but by that statement I could get away with using pretty much any lens ever made, that’s not the point here.

Canon made this lens less expensive, which I don’t get, and included some qualities that I don’t want by sacrificing qualities I appriciate.

There were always those who said “MY ef 50 f1.2 L doesn’t have focus shift” yes it does..
 
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Magnetic Field Strength of VCM

Out of curiosity, this evening I used a Gauss meter to measure the magnetic field strength around the Canon RF 35 mm f1.4 lens. The maximum reading I received was located just above the AF/MF switch located on the lens. All measurements are approximate, but at two inches away the magnetic field strength was <= 1 Gauss. Measurements taken with the lens unmounted on the camera.
 
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Viggo said:
I get that you like to defend your purchase, but it isn’t as good as it should be, and relying on software to correct MASSIVE distortion and more CA than any other RF-L is pretty bad for an L.
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Have you seen the uncorrected images out of the 10-20L at MFD 10mm? I think digital correction is here to stay going forward on all RF lenses, like it or not.
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Canon made this lens less expensive, which I don’t get, and included some qualities that I don’t want by sacrificing qualities I appriciate.
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I don’t think it is less expensive relative to the competition — sure it is cheaper than the EF 35L, but this is the most expensive FF mirrorless 35mm prime not branded “Leica”.

The Sony GM and Sigma 1.2 Art are both less expensive right now on B&H. I think they would be hard pressed to justify a $2000 lens like the EF version in the current market.
 
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JTP said:
@Viggo - I don’t want to get into a forum argument here. I'm not defending the lens; I'm simply saying that I don't care about the meaningless arguments presented in the video. Have you actually used this lens yet? My point is that people often get hung up on technical tests that don't reflect real-world use cases. This lens is remarkable in terms of sharpness from center to borders, and the colors are spectacular. The issues with chromatic aberration and lens flare he mentions will almost never affect me, so why should I care? My clients, who provide me a full-time living, won't care either. People often focus too much on the technical details and forget to appreciate the important aspects. Now, I have a 35mm lens that is 1.2 pounds and rivals the 50mm 1.2 at 35mm. This new 35mm lens outperforms the old EF 35mm. I’ll continue producing consistent work for my clients, who pay me to do this for a living. That’s all that matters to me. If you prefer to use older lenses, go ahead. I'll tell you what - here's a few of my recent images, go take the older lenses and produce this sharpness, consistency, and these colors. These new RF versions are better in just about every way possible and the 35mm is just another exceptional addition to the lineup.
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Leica's optical developers have always stated that lenses shouldn't be judged on the basis of test- chart results, but on actual real-life results. If you use the Noctilux to shoot charts on a wall, you'll be fully disappointed. Different story if you take pictures of people in an adequate environment. Look at the RF 100-400 MTFs or charts, mediocre at best.
Yet, quite strangely, you get very good pictures with this lens.
If I didn't have the EF 1,4/35, I wouldn't hesitate one second and order the RF version. Generally speaking, I distrust reviews and I distrust even more reviewers...
PS: very nice mariage pictures! :)
 
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frankchn said:
Have you seen the uncorrected images out of the 10-20L at MFD 10mm? I think digital correction is here to stay going forward on all RF lenses, like it or not.

I don’t think it is less expensive relative to the competition — sure it is cheaper than the EF 35L, but this is the most expensive FF mirrorless 35mm prime not branded “Leica”.

The Sony GM and Sigma 1.2 Art are both less expensive right now on B&H. I think they would be hard pressed to justify a $2000 lens like the EF version in the current market.
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One might say “the competition” when comparing brands, but not really though. People, well most, don’t change systems because of one lens. And the other RF-primes, although expensive, is mostly considered absolutely worth it, so what Sony or Nikon might charge for their similar lenses isn’t all that relevant.

Charts have their purpose, but I wasn’t referring to charts in my initial comment, but rather his general findings, which included the backlit portraits etc. The other RF-L primes aren’t dependent on digital correction. I think it’s bad enough my 28 f2.8 pancake needs it… which is kind of my point with 35, it isn’t the “all-in” lens the EF mk2 and the other RF-L primes was.

I’ve shot quite a bit with several different Nocti’s and they are pretty horrible in a technical way. So much so that it wasn’t really enjoyable, much like the ef 50 L. That’s my opinion, I like sharp and very good technical lenses with great bokeh, like the RF 50, 85 and 135. I’m no so sure the new 35 matches those at all, which is weird because loads of people will be using two or more of those together.
 
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I've used the new RF 35 1.4 last saturday in the streets of Soho (Manhattan).
I cannot share the results as the files are with the retoucher.
A few considerations...

On the good side: love size and weight. The lens feels well built and, while I did feel the rattle once, it did not bother me carrying it around in my backpack (i.e. I did not shake it deliberately). The AF is silent. The resulting images are plenty sharp (looking at them in LR and PS, meaning with profile corrections applied) and at ISO 400 there was no hint of additional noise due to vignetting correction.

On the less good side: I wish Canon had made the focus ring wider. It's too early to judge it but I would classify it as a competent lens but without the "magic" of the 85 1.2. I would prefer the 50 1.2 to it as well for what I've seen.

All in all, a good showing but not stellar. In line with the price. I would not call the conditions I have used it in "extreme": I mean I did not shoot fully open nor in the dark requiring high ISO. And the model was not moving at high speed or randomly ;) More testing needed.

I would still prefer a 35 1.2 with a design approach closer to the current 1.2 primes. Of course Canon would have to make one :censored:
 
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