More thoughts on the Canon EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II from Paris

That can’t be right, I was led to believe pros would never want more than 24MP !
There are advantages and disadvantages to both 24 and 45 MP sensors. Frankly, I am glad that Canon gave us a choice with the R1 @ 24 MP and the R5 @ 45 MP. I am buying one of each for exactly that reason among a few others as well.
 
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Awww, you think one person is representative of a whole group. How cute.

At least you fit in well here on CR, where some people believe their opinions represent those of the majority of photographers.
This has to be one of the most blatant instances of “pot calling kettle black”

I actually can’t find a single instance of a pro photographer from this Olympics, including the ones on Canon’s payroll, saying that they wouldn’t take more than 24MP
 
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This has to be one of the most blatant instances of “pot calling kettle black”
This has to be one of the most blatant instances of "utter failure at reading comprehension". Please, quote a message or two where I've claimed my opinions represented those of anyone but me much less a majority of photographers, or where I've claimed my own opinions are facts, or that when shown to be incorrect I have failed to acknowledge it. Go ahead...
 
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This has to be one of the most blatant instances of "utter failure at reading comprehension". Please, quote a message or two where I've claimed my opinions represented those of anyone but me much less a majority of photographers, or where I've claimed my own opinions are facts, or that when shown to be incorrect I have failed to acknowledge it. Go ahead...
Are you claiming that you have never once stated or implied that 24MP is what the majority of professional photographers want in a so called flagship?

The real common denominator is that you think Canon can do no wrong and will ascribe their actions to what the majority of photographers want. But either way, you're speaking for others with no data of your own.
 
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Are you claiming that you have never once stated or implied that 24MP is what the majority of professional photographers want in a so called flagship?
I claimed that that is what Canon appears to believe, based on the fact that they launched a 24 MP R1 as their flagship professional body. But I also stated that they launched the R5II as another professional body alongside the R1 for a reason. I have also claimed that Canon is more likely to know what the majority of professional photographers want in a flagship or in any other camera than anyone here on this forum. Try to keep up.

The real common denominator is that you think Canon can do no wrong and will ascribe their actions to what the majority of photographers want.
Again, read more carefully. I have never stated that Canon can do no wrong, and I have commented on some of their decisions I personally don't like. My point is, and has consistently been, that Canon's decisions have cumulatively resulted in them first achieving market dominance then maintaining it for over a decade as the market changed dramatically. Those are facts. A logical inference from those facts is that if their decisions did not result in products that a majority of photographers wanted to buy, then they would have lost market share. They haven't. Facts and logical inference are the common denominator of my posts.

But either way, you're speaking for others with no data of your own.
Then provide quotes where I have done so, which was my initial request. You're making accusations and are unwilling to support them with evidence. I deleted this comment from my first reply, but now it's warranted: Put up or shut up. If you can't, have the decency to admit your mistake and stop making false accusations. I won't hold my breath, on this forum (as in most of life) people are rarely willing to admit when they're wrong.
 
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An interesting interview with Jeff Cable on the Behind the Shot podcast. He was very impressed with pretty much all of the AF improvements. And even though he uses both cameras, and likes the 45 MPs of the R5 mark II, he makes it clear for his contractual sports shooting, he wants 24 MP and not more than 24 MP. He was most impressed with the improvements in stickiness of the AF on both cameras. And also the Pre-Capture and the big improvement in the eye-controlled AF.

https://youtu.be/Tj2VxOS236g?si=FYFgLBjEaM_fBrdx
 
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There are advantages and disadvantages to both 24 and 45 MP sensors. Frankly, I am glad that Canon gave us a choice with the R1 @ 24 MP and the R5 @ 45 MP. I am buying one of each for exactly that reason among a few others as well.
People can't seem to understand that Canon announced both cameras at the same time and right before the Olympics for that very reason.
I have heard people from Nikon wishing they had a choice like Canon and Sony have.
 
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I'm trying to determine from the initial reviews if I feel like the R5mkII was a bigger than usual upgrade between versions, or just about the same. On the AF side I feel like the added tracking capability is a bigger jump than we got with say the R3 and R6mkII. Stacked sensor is a big deal, but really only kicks in in ES mode for sports and action where rolling shutter can pop up (so a big deal for some, and no deal at all for others).

Either way seems like a lot of quality of life upgrades. I wonder how much might show up in an R6mkIII?

I'm test driving an R3 for a weekend soccer tournament. A good test of how much I'll benefit from the stacked sensor, and how much I will or won't miss the resolution over the R5. Then I can decide on an upgrade path.

Brian
How did you like the R3? What are its good and bad elements?
 
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How did you like the R3? What are its good and bad elements?
Enough that I bought a used one. The resolution is not a downside for me. The speed, stacked sensor, very clean files, very low noise and good high ISO performance are the upsides. The ergonomics and battery life as well.

The only downside I can think of is its a bit big to carry hiking. So I kept an R5 for that.
 
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How did you like the R3? What are its good and bad elements?
I love my R3.
The only bad element is that it is not an R1.
The best elements are that it is perfect in the hand and the battery lasts a long time for a mirrorless camera.
The 1DX III battery lasted so long that the R3 would be a disappointment compared to that.
I love the eye control AF but it does not work for everyone.
 
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How did you like the R3? What are its good and bad elements?

Enough that I bought a used one. The resolution is not a downside for me. The speed, stacked sensor, very clean files, very low noise and good high ISO performance are the upsides. The ergonomics and battery life as well.

The only downside I can think of is its a bit big to carry hiking. So I kept an R5 for that.
I should add, the AF is definitely better than the R5/6. Faster and stickier is how I would describe it. There are many features I have not used yet, so I'm sure it will just get better with time.
 
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