Map Times for June 2024, X-T50 pummels everyone

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The S9 is more popular than I expected, I'd like a similar model from Canon. A compact model that leans hard into making things easy to accomplish, combined with an app on the phone to make your work easy to share.

I still don't understand why the "View Assist" feature can only work during recording, but not during playback. I ran into this a few weeks ago, I wanted a slowmo video of a songbird bathing in a forest pond and wasn't sure about the exposure. Playback showed everything as a washed out grey, since it was clog3. The overexposed white plumage only became evident in post :( Dappled lighting being difficult to expose for isn't limited to stills!
 
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koenkooi said:
The S9 is more popular than I expected, I'd like a similar model from Canon. A compact model that leans hard into making things easy to accomplish, combined with an app on the phone to make your work easy to share.

I still don't understand why the "View Assist" feature can only work during recording, but not during playback. I ran into this a few weeks ago, I wanted a slowmo video of a songbird bathing in a forest pond and wasn't sure about the exposure. Playback showed everything as a washed out grey, since it was clog3. The overexposed white plumage only became evident in post :( Dappled lighting being difficult to expose for isn't limited to stills!
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Damn, I think Canon can do a lot of software improvements to help to get a better exposure with CLOG3... Yeah, yeah, zebras. I also like to not have to interpret a viewfinder/screen like I am a damn computer. Need something more human-readable tbh. I know fans of these things will find excuses to not improve things and leave them as is
 
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Zadak said:
Why does Canon lag so much in the APS-C department? Like, give me a R6MII body with a crop sensor. How hard can that be?
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I have no idea why.

It's just a stunning and puzzling set of circumstances. Heck, all they had to do was copy the EOS-M and put an APS_C sensor into an R5 camera body and I think almost everyone would have taken that as a win.

instead, they made the most unappealing and "boring" APS-C cameras, and someone decided to murder the R7 ergonomics and just for giggles they decided that people coming from smartphones don't need touchscreens anymore.
 
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Richard CR said:
I have no idea why.

It's just a stunning and puzzling set of circumstances. Heck, all they had to do was copy the EOS-M and put an APS_C sensor into an R5 camera body and I think almost everyone would have taken that as a win.

instead, they made the most unappealing and "boring" APS-C cameras, and someone decided to murder the R7 ergonomics and just for giggles they decided that people coming from smartphones don't need touchscreens anymore.
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It's like Canon is making the RF-S line intentionally as dumb as possible.
 
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Richard CR said:
I have no idea why.

It's just a stunning and puzzling set of circumstances. Heck, all they had to do was copy the EOS-M and put an APS_C sensor into an R5 camera body and I think almost everyone would have taken that as a win.

instead, they made the most unappealing and "boring" APS-C cameras, and someone decided to murder the R7 ergonomics and just for giggles they decided that people coming from smartphones don't need touchscreens anymore.
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Well, I mean, if we've learned one thing on these forums over the years it's that Canon is an evil corporation that exists only to frustrate and disappoint it's customers. So pretty well in line with their business model.... ;)

Brian
 
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Richard CR said:
instead, they made the most unappealing and "boring" APS-C cameras, and someone decided to murder the R7 ergonomics and just for giggles they decided that people coming from smartphones don't need touchscreens anymore.
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Have you seriously used the R7? It's a damned good camera.
 
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AlanF said:
The R7 is basically that. Why do you think it isn't?
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The R7 is a bit shorter than the R5/R6 type of bodies, it doesn’t have space for my pinky finger. I added a minigrip that adds the ‘missing’ centimeter and it handles the RF100-500L a lot better now.

That’s my main gripe with the R7 ergonomics, my other annoyances went away after using it for a few months. I even like the wheel thingy nowadays :)
 
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AlanF said:
The R7 is basically that. Why do you think it isn't?
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I think it's a decent but not great camera. The shutter "slap" alone sets off nearby Richter scale monitoring, it also feels "clunky" and I find it loses focus constantly. IQ also wasn't that good, in my experience. It wasn't awful, but I would put it at "average". I also found ISO noise to be a step backwards as well. I wasn't expecting fit & finish on par with something like the R5, but I was still disappointed.
 
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AccipiterQ said:
I think it's a decent but not great camera. The shutter "slap" alone sets off nearby Richter scale monitoring, it also feels "clunky" and I find it loses focus constantly. IQ also wasn't that good, in my experience. It wasn't awful, but I would put it at "average". I also found ISO noise to be a step backwards as well. I wasn't expecting fit & finish on par with something like the R5, but I was still disappointed.
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I use ES for much of the time where shutter shock or noise would be intrusive. DxO PL is transformative for processing RAW from sensors with small pixels and brings out the best in the 32 Mpx sensor. I do use the R5 more than the R7, which I bought for my wife, but I am very happy with the performance of the R7. The R7 is like any camera - know its weak points and work around them. In the UK, the R7 was (and still is) 1/3rd the price of the R5.
 
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Zadak said:
Why does Canon lag so much in the APS-C department? Like, give me a R6MII body with a crop sensor. How hard can that be?
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I don't have a clue, same as Richard. We have this discussion regularly. I shot X-T3 before the R5 hit and still miss that kit today. The lenses are great, the cameras are great. Canon has brand power and loyalty... a lot of us would buy a proper APS-C kit. What they did to the R7 was criminal for a 7 series, those were such great DSLRs. It reminds me of what they did with the 60D and whatever the 77D was,.

However, I guess Canon Inc. knows better than we do.
 
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AlanF said:
So, you want mirrors put back in the R7/R5?
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The R7 ergonomics are a trainwreck. A scrollwheel to smack yourself in the eye? Why is there no scroll wheel where it should be? Back in the DSLR days, tons of 1d shooters had 7 series as second cameras, they were at least close to each other on the backside of the camera. The R7 feels half-assed.
 
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Canon Rumors Guy said:
The R7 ergonomics are a trainwreck. A scrollwheel to smack yourself in the eye? Why is there no scroll wheel where it should be? Back in the DSLR days, tons of 1d shooters had 7 series as second cameras, they were at least close to each other on the backside of the camera. The R7 feels half-assed.
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Half-assed, just like every single Canon APS-C release, lens or body.
 
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