RF 500 f4.0L & RF 300 2.8 WHEN!?

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I m thinking about to buy a second hand 500mm... MK 1 or 2.
So I have checked the specs those two lenses via The-Digital-Pictures. And edited a wanted RF 500mm to it ;)...
Look how many years are between MK1 & 2.... ~12 years! SO I asum that we will see a new one sooonish?! We are now above to go 13+ years :'(!

Same with a lightweight RF 300mm 2.8 !

For a new 500mm f4.0 I hope it only weight ~ 2500g max and the 300mm f2.8 ~1500g (looking at the Sony one ;) )



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fox40phil said:
I m thinking about to buy a second hand 500mm... MK 1 or 2.
So I have checked the specs those two lenses via The-Digital-Pictures. And edited a wanted RF 500mm to it ;)...
Look how many years are between MK1 & 2.... ~12 years! SO I asum that we will see a new one sooonish?! We are now above to go 13+ years :'(!

Same with a lightweight RF 300mm 2.8 !

For a new 500mm f4.0 I hope it only weight ~ 2500g max and the 300mm f2.8 ~1500g (looking at the Sony one ;) )
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It is very unlikely that Canon will release an RF500 f/4L and RF300 f/2.8L primes. There is now a RF100-300 f/2.8L and a rumored RF200-500 f/4L. Canon did not renew the EF 500 II while the the EF 400 f/2.8L II and EF 600 f/4L II were updated. The reason may be the RF 200-500 f/4L
 
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fox40phil said:
I don't think so.
Zooms aren't primes. They are heavyier & more expensive...
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With respect, it really only matters what Canon believes the market wants. No one on this forum is ‘the market’.

The EF 300/2.8 II is as old as the EF 500/4 II. Canon updated their contemporary 400/2.8 II and 600/4 II siblings with MkIII versions that were converted to the RF mount.

Meanwhile, we have the RF 100-300/2.8 and several published patents and ostensibly credible rumors of a 200-500/4. The signs seem obvious.

As for heavier, the RF 100-300/2.8 is a whopping 100 g (4%) heavier than the EF 300/2.8 II when used on a R body. It is 75mm longer, which bugs me a bit, but it’s not significantly heavier.

As for more expensive, sure. But that’s to Canon’s advantage, in all likelihood. So why wouldn’t they go there? They care what the market will pay, not what any individual can afford or wants to pay. The availability problems of the 100-300/2.8 at launch suggests there were ample buyers.
 
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fox40phil said:
I don't think so.
Zooms aren't primes. They are heavyier & more expensive...
If you think so, they could also produce a 400-600 2.8-4.0 zoom ;) ;)...
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Super Telephoto Zooms

www.canonrumors.com

Canon Patent Application: Some Amazing Super Telephoto optical designs

In this patent application (2024-101302), Canon discusses some unique telephoto lenses. Most of the lenses in here would be eye-watering priced, so hold onto your credit cards. Just in case.
www.canonrumors.com

As others have mentioned it appears that Canon is going the zoom route in replacing super telephoto primes. The 200-500 mm f4 lens has been rumored for ages and a recent patent (linked above) shows patents for a 400-600 mm f2.8-f4 zoom, a 300-600 mm f2.8 - f4.5 zoom, etc.

Personally, I would love some lightweight DO primes with built in 1.4x TCs, but I am not holding my breath. A 500 mm f4-4.5 DO with 1.4 x TC would be very enticing.
 
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If you add the last three posts together, I think you see a nice comprehensive strategy:
  • Several high end (>$8k) supertelephoto primes (400 mm, 600 mm, 800 mm, and 1200 mm)
  • At least one but likely two high end zooms: 100-300 f/2.8 and the rumored 200-500 f/4
  • A few upper mid-range ($2k to $8K) primes: 400 f/4 and/or 500 f/5.6 (rumored)
  • A upper mid-range zoom (some may argue this is high end, but I am thinking price point): 100-500
  • Then you have more consumer level to upper consumer level lenses, at least in terms of price point (<$2k), which are still very good: Zooms: 200-800, 100-400, and primes: 600 f/11, and 800 f/11
If the rumors hold, I see multiple lenses at the different price points. A blend of zooms and primes at each price point and I see each set of lenses being differentiated from each other. I actually think this was the problem with the EF 300, 400, 500, and 600, sure, they are somewhat differentiated but making every other a zoom (300 becoming 100-300 and 500 becoming 200-500) and every other a prime better differentiates the market for each of those lenses.
 
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