R1. I got one!

So! I got one!

Wow.

First off, Panamoz were great. Got an r1, a spare battery, a control ring EF adapter and a 24-105/4L for 6.6k EUR. Bargain. The camera alone is 7.5 retail. Ordered it on a Friday evening and it arrived the following Thursday. Had it about a week now.

This thing is just a beast. I have my first pro shoot with it this coming Tuesday, having finally set it up and played with it enough to trust myself with paid gigs.

It’s such a massive step up from the 5div in every single way it’s just a bit overwhelming. It feels great in the hand, there are buttons galore. I was surprised about it feeling a touch fragile in comparison with the 5div, but I think it’s an impression mainly from the screen. It flips out and feels a little breakable. The 5div was a tank. I’m sure this is too, it’s just my initial impressions. It’s surprisingly light too. I’m glad, but that might add to the impression I have. By no means is it a bad thing or a criticism- i just haven’t used it enough yet.

The focus system is mind blowing coming from my 5div’s. So many workable first rate options will take some relearning after years of managing with a stiff joystick and limited focus points. The multicontroller thing is epic. I have it set to focus start on a half press which switches to eye focus on the full press. (Eye focus as in eye tracking focus, not the eye control focus which I have been unable to get to work very well). If anyone’s interested I have servo/one shot on the * and limited focus areas selector on the last button.

I limited my fps to 40/20/3, and it’s defaulted at 3, as that’s great for the type of stuff I shoot mainly, with the top front button switching to 40fps if I need it. The bottom front button toggles focus tracking.

Whilst im talking buttons, the mf next to the shutter button switches between people, animals, vehicles and none (I’ll likely limit this eventually) and the mf on the back left is the mode button. The original mode button is the ‘revert all back to auto’ switch when in FV mode, the oh shit button. I don’t really know much about Fv, it wasn’t on the 5div. I always have shot in manual, but I like the idea of it; when I’m in a fast situation and something happens. I dunno. But it’s set up - I’ll see if I can fit it in to my habits or if it’s useful.

Talking of modes, I have restricted them to M and C1 set up with the restricted Fv mode in taking about. (250 min shutter speed and 12k max iso). I wish that I could use the mode button to cycle modes instead of it opening up the mode screen and using the dial. Having only two modes I think it would work nicely.

Anyway. My first impressions and initial set up.

I'm professional, my living is solely earnt from photography. I shoot portraits generally, normally on location and almost never in a studio. The locations are within a large city, and my clients range from models to romance shoots (surprise proposals etc), family shoots, musicians. I also shoot weddings.
 
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Thank you for sharing your first impressions and setup info.
I hope you gives this thread a followup with shooting experiences and maybe some examples.
I am particularly interested in the expansion of the metering zones. From the review: "Usual is for EOS cameras to have 384 zone (24x16) metering, but the R1 and R5 II evaluate 6144 zones from a 96x64 grid."
I'd like to know how noticeably better (and balanced) the metering is in real-life situations. Perhaps it will be possible to test that and compare it with a camera that uses 384 zones.
 
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Thank you for sharing your first impressions and setup info.
I hope you gives this thread a followup with shooting experiences and maybe some examples.
I am particularly interested in the expansion of the metering zones. From the review: "Usual is for EOS cameras to have 384 zone (24x16) metering, but the R1 and R5 II evaluate 6144 zones from a 96x64 grid."
I'd like to know how noticeably better (and balanced) the metering is in real-life situations. Perhaps it will be possible to test that and compare it with a camera that uses 384 zones.
I will follow up once I have used the camera as I intend to use it a few times, ie, paid gigs.

I’m not sure I’m able to really test in any remotely scientific manner. I don’t really have time for that kind of thing, nor would I really know the best way to do it. I doubt would I likely understand either what I was doing or the results! However, after years of using 5divs, I will certainly remark on the differences once I have enough data. Hopefully you can glean the info you wish for from these (which I assure you will be) very non-technical notes!
 
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I will follow up once I have used the camera as I intend to use it a few times, ie, paid gigs.

I’m not sure I’m able to really test in any remotely scientific manner. I don’t really have time for that kind of thing, nor would I really know the best way to do it. I doubt would I likely understand either what I was doing or the results! However, after years of using 5divs, I will certainly remark on the differences once I have enough data. Hopefully you can glean the info you wish for from these (which I assure you will be) very non-technical notes!

Thank you for your response. I am not very technically savvy myself. I noticed that 384 zones have been used by Canon in DSLR cameras for years. The first generation of R cameras also used 384 zones. But apparently Canon has decided to expand the zones because this is necessary with mirrorless cameras? I have no idea. I can't find anything about it on the internet. That's why I'm curious about practical comparisons.
Good luck with the shoots
 
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Congrats!

If you are interested, I like checking my set up against others. Bryan over at TDP has this set up guide and Ron at Whistling Wings has this video, which is 1.5 hrs long. I broken into sections over several days. It was worth it to me as he had a few different thoughts than I did so it made me consider a few options.

Great camera.

Another FYI, but at least in low light, I am finding LR lens profile corrections is adding a good amount of noise. I’ll probably do a post on it soon. But you might want to turn lens profile corrections off in LRc if you are seeing noisy images. At least give it a try.

Again congratulations!
 
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I think they are referring to metering zones not AF zones. See 6144-split photometric area with precise photometric control (translation) in the following link:

Thank you. Could not find this info. The comparison might be difficult if you can't be in a situation where this can be clearly a case.
 
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Congrats!

If you are interested, I like checking my set up against others. Bryan over at TDP has this set up guide and Ron at Whistling Wings has this video, which is 1.5 hrs long. I broken into sections over several days. It was worth it to me as he had a few different thoughts than I did so it made me consider a few options.

Great camera.

Another FYI, but at least in low light, I am finding LR lens profile corrections is adding a good amount of noise. I’ll probably do a post on it soon. But you might want to turn lens profile corrections off in LRc if you are seeing noisy images. At least give it a try.

Again congratulations!

Cheers, I’ll find these links very interesting im sure
 
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I wonder if this will determine auto ISO more accurately

EDIT: I'm wondering about this because I often use auto ISO. I've noticed that photos I've taken with a DSLR have lower ISO values than photos taken with a mirrorless camera. The photos were taken at the same locations and under the same conditions. The difference is, for example, 1600 and 4000 ISO. Of course you can correct the noise with software, but I prefer lower ISO values. On the other hand the DSLR's were using the same 384 zone metering system.
 
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Congrats on the camera. I have still yet to use it in production, but that will change in the not-too-distant future. I too use auto ISO and shoot almost exclusively in shutter priority as shutter speed for me is the more important aspect of my shooting. I usually try for 1/800 or higher when shooting runners, for anything below that, I get blurry feet/arms or vehicles. I think you will find that the R1 will perform very well at higher ISOs than others, I can tell a difference even over my R3, but again I have not shot it much since getting it.
 
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Congrats on the camera. I have still yet to use it in production, but that will change in the not-too-distant future. I too use auto ISO and shoot almost exclusively in shutter priority as shutter speed for me is the more important aspect of my shooting. I usually try for 1/800 or higher when shooting runners, for anything below that, I get blurry feet/arms or vehicles. I think you will find that the R1 will perform very well at higher ISOs than others, I can tell a difference even over my R3, but again I have not shot it much since getting it.
The high iso capability, by which I mean better quality not the height ceiling, was one of the deciding factors in getting this camera so I certainly hope to be satisfied. I am already with my testing but the proof will be in the pudding when I use it for work.
 
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Oh it's nice down there.

The deal is kind of already on their website, well it was when I ordered it at least. There was possibly a sale of sorts on, it was on Black Friday - dunno if that mattered. I just selected my basket and then emailed to ask if I could have any reductions. Support is amazing, replies almost straight away, and that's how I got the price down further.
 
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