R1 Overheating!

werunhsv

werunhsv

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Love the focusing on the R1, just having an issue with it overheating. Was shooting beach volleyball this weekend, temps 40-70 with sunny skies. On average, shot about 500 photos per hour, in short burst, large jpgs only. The R1 has a new (to me maybe) temp meter in the top right corner, that would come on. I got up to 6 of the available 10 bars as I shot. The right side of the camera, where the card is, got fairly warm to the touch. Every 45 minutes of shooting was followed by 15 minutes to upload, so it would cool back off. Tried with 2 different cards. a prograde 3400 and a Lexar 1750. Never had this issue with my R3s.
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Where does it show that it's overheating? The overheating icon for stills (see https://cam.start.canon/en/C018/manual/html/UG-03_Shooting-1_0540.html) isn't showing yellow or red yet. Canon also claims the bar you're seeing is only available in movie mode, but that's wrong :) You can see the manual for that here: https://cam.start.canon/en/C018/manual/html/UG-03_Shooting-2_0280.html

Basically: only start worrying when it's red and only one bar is unlit. When it actually overheats, you'll get a bunch of warnings and the camera will shutdown, it won't be subtle about it.

Having said all that, I can't say if the amount of bars you are seeing is considered normal or not for an R1 on a (fake) beach. Are you using pre-continuous shooting a lot? That heats up my R5II a lot!
 
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Well, this is concerning to me if you were only shooting stills and not video. I live in the south, on the northern end of it, but there are many days I'll go shoot an all-day track event where the temps will be in the 80s of higher in the afternoon. I really hope there is not a chance for thermal shutdown. My R3 has run like a champ all day long at these events with no perceivable issues, granted the R3 does not have a temp meter. Were you standing in direct sunlight? I assume so, being on a beach. My R5M2 overheats when shooting video in these conditions. I've gone so far as to look for an umbrella to shade it.

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It's great, it's soo fast, it's ..... shutting down because it overheated.
 
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candyman said:
@koenkooi : does this also apply to the R5II? And if so, how does this influence your still shooting?
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I have not seen it during still shooting on my r5m2 but I do not use it for shooting sports events or long-duration stills sessions. I only use it for shooting videos at these events and it does get hot and it has shut down on me a few times in direct sunlight. It was bad enough I ordered the fan grip. I just received it last week and have not had the opportunity to test it out yet.

Edit: I should say that outside of video at sporting events, I use it for landscape and waterfall photography and any time I am doing any kind of portrait or people photography, IE shooting the awards presentations at the sporting events where subjects are stationary and quality (resolution) is more important to me.
 
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candyman said:
@koenkooi : does this also apply to the R5II? And if so, how does this influence your still shooting?
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During summer in full sunlight, the overheat indicator started increasing when I was using precapture almost continuously. The battery died before it overheated, that took slightly less than 2 hours.

I haven’t had it overheat yet, even when mixing in some 8k60 and 4k120 clips, but it hasn’t really been hot in the Netherlands since the R5II release.

The camera does get very warm when being heavily used, I look forward to a cold winter where it can warm my shutter hand :)
 
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werunhsv said:
Love the focusing on the R1
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Even based on your post, I now expect to see a few YT videos talking about reports of overheating with the R1 surrounded by flames in the thumbnail.

I have seen 1 bar go by, just playing with menus, taking an occasional shot. It seems that the scale is very sensitive.

Personally, I will wait until I myself run into issues or I see others shooting similar to me run into issues. Until then, the temperature scale increased, but not into the red area. Not a big deal, IMO.
 
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Was only shooting stills, no video and no pre continuous shooting. I was on the sand with direct sun and it was getting toasty. Never had an issue with the R3, it would go all day. My concern is, if it's getting that warm in cooler weather and short burst, what is it going to do at a running race and it's hot, with continuous shooting for an hour. Can't have it over heat in the middle of that!
 
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werunhsv said:
Was only shooting stills, no video and no pre continuous shooting. I was on the sand with direct sun and it was getting toasty. Never had an issue with the R3, it would go all day. My concern is, if it's getting that warm in cooler weather and short burst, what is it going to do at a running race and it's hot, with continuous shooting for an hour. Can't have it over heat in the middle of that!
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I would've expected the larger R1 to be less susceptible overheating than the smaller R3, but that's just a feeling. I have used neither of those myself!
 
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werunhsv said:
Was only shooting stills, no video and no pre continuous shooting. I was on the sand with direct sun and it was getting toasty. Never had an issue with the R3, it would go all day. My concern is, if it's getting that warm in cooler weather and short burst, what is it going to do at a running race and it's hot, with continuous shooting for an hour. Can't have it over heat in the middle of that!
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Well I have to say this bring me great concern because your example you cited is one that I am in almost weekly for most of the year. During the summer I shoot motorsports where it can be swelteringly hot, 100+ F for most of the day standing on pavement. It gets so hot I wear knee pads just to keep from being burned by the pavement.
 
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werunhsv said:
I got up to 6 of the available 10 bars as I shot. The right side of the camera, where the card is, got fairly warm to the touch. Every 45 minutes of shooting was followed by 15 minutes to upload, so it would cool back off. Tried with 2 different cards. a prograde 3400 and a Lexar 1750. Never had this issue with my R3s.
Any thoughts?
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Well, my first thought is that if it only got up to 6/10 bars and it kept working ithen technically t wasn't overheating, was it? It was just heating... Maybe it would have overheated with longer periods of use, maybe it would have reached a balance where it was losing heat to the environment at the same rate it was generating it and it would never have actually overheated. Be interesting if anyone can test that.
 
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alFR said:
Well, my first thought is that if it only got up to 6/10 bars and it kept working ithen technically t wasn't overheating, was it? It was just heating... Maybe it would have overheated with longer periods of use, maybe it would have reached a balance where it was losing heat to the environment at the same rate it was generating it and it would never have actually overheated. Be interesting if anyone can test that.
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Let me quote Canon's manual:
"...The white [Overheating warning] icon indicates that the image quality of still photos will decline. Stop shooting for a while and allow the camera to cool down."

"...The red [Overheating warning] icon indicates that shooting will soon be terminated automatically. Shooting will not be possible again until the camera cools down internally, so stop shooting temporarily or turn off the camera and let it cool down a while."

Once you see any temperature icon it starts the overheating warning. I get what you are saying but I think it's completely unacceptable for a Canon R1 to show 6/10 bars overheating warning while taking photos in a 40F - 70F environment. I have seen something similar with my R5m2 but that's not a Pro body.
 
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0x2102 said:
Let me quote Canon's manual:
"...The white [Overheating warning] icon indicates that the image quality of still photos will decline. Stop shooting for a while and allow the camera to cool down."

"...The red [Overheating warning] icon indicates that shooting will soon be terminated automatically. Shooting will not be possible again until the camera cools down internally, so stop shooting temporarily or turn off the camera and let it cool down a while."

Once you see any temperature icon it starts the overheating warning. I get what you are saying but I think it's completely unacceptable for a Canon R1 to show 6/10 bars overheating warning while taking photos in a 40F - 70F environment. I have seen something similar with my R5m2 but that's not a Pro body.
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I agree! On the line with CPS to try and figure this out. BTW, I was not using live view, which may cause over heating.
 
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0x2102 said:
Once you see any temperature icon it starts the overheating warning. I get what you are saying but I think it's completely unacceptable for a Canon R1 to show 6/10 bars overheating warning while taking photos in a 40F - 70F environment. I have seen something similar with my R5m2 but that's not a Pro body.
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Ah, OK. I was thinking of it more like a temperature gauge on a car where it showed the operating temperature but it was only a problem when it went into the red.
 
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I posted this in another thread, I am back to being concerned about heat issues. I shot a ballet last night in 70*F temperature, indoors in the dark and managed to get to 3 or 4 bars while shooting for 45, 30, and 30 minute increments with 10 minute breaks between. I was only shooting 12-20 fps and had pre-capture running.
 
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koenkooi said:
Where does it show that it's overheating? The overheating icon for stills (see https://cam.start.canon/en/C018/manual/html/UG-03_Shooting-1_0540.html) isn't showing yellow or red yet. Canon also claims the bar you're seeing is only available in movie mode, but that's wrong :) You can see the manual for that here: https://cam.start.canon/en/C018/manual/html/UG-03_Shooting-2_0280.html

Basically: only start worrying when it's red and only one bar is unlit. When it actually overheats, you'll get a bunch of warnings and the camera will shutdown, it won't be subtle about it.

Having said all that, I can't say if the amount of bars you are seeing is considered normal or not for an R1 on a (fake) beach. Are you using pre-continuous shooting a lot? That heats up my R5II a lot!
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The R5II overheats in video mode and now the R1 for photo. The overheat icon meter shouldn't even show up. My R5 does not over heat or show the overheat warning since that firmware update. This is not acceptable.
 
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0x2102 said:
Let me quote Canon's manual:
"...The white [Overheating warning] icon indicates that the image quality of still photos will decline. Stop shooting for a while and allow the camera to cool down."

"...The red [Overheating warning] icon indicates that shooting will soon be terminated automatically. Shooting will not be possible again until the camera cools down internally, so stop shooting temporarily or turn off the camera and let it cool down a while."

Once you see any temperature icon it starts the overheating warning. I get what you are saying but I think it's completely unacceptable for a Canon R1 to show 6/10 bars overheating warning while taking photos in a 40F - 70F environment. I have seen something similar with my R5m2 but that's not a Pro body.
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I read that also. I'm shocked by the real world results. I have issues with my R5II overheating and was thinking about moving up to the R1.
 
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It really seems like Canon is cutting corners with addressing its overheating as long as they provide overheating times in their manual. It also seems like they are releasing spec cameras that don't live up to the performance that the R5 and R3 had. My R3 seems to really perform like a professional camera compared to the R5II when you push each camera to the limit. I was expecting the R1 to solve the overheating issue that the R3 and R5II have but it looks like that's not the case.
 
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