It looks like Samyang is about the announce an RF-S AF 12mm f/2.0, yes.. with autofocus

Does the comment that the RF and RF-S mount is the same, mean that putting an RF-S lens on a full-frame camera would simply produce a smaller image on-sensor? Is there a downside to doing that?
 
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Does the comment that the RF and RF-S mount is the same, mean that putting an RF-S lens on a full-frame camera would simply produce a smaller image on-sensor? Is there a downside to doing that?
The camera automatically crops the resulting images to APS-C size.

The downside is the same as any crop, less image area used means proportionally higher image noise.
 
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I wonder if licensees' lenses will benefit from the various R-mount upsides, like the additional communications lanes to have tilt and shake info communicated to the camera.

I have the Rokinon 85mm f/1.4, which I like very much - especially the price. But it's essentially an adapted EF lens.
I just ordered the EF version, on B&H for a mere $202. It arrives today, along with an Irix 15mm f/2.4. I shoot astro and will use them primarily for that. I don't mind having to use the Rf-EF adaptor If this new Samyang is APS-C, as I think, it won't interest me. I have the EF 11-24 f/4 which may be huge and heavy, but is a great lens. and the VND filter that I have for the adaptor that accepts filters is quite convenient. I have the Rok 14 f/2.8, which is just OK (prefer my RF 15-35 2.8 for astro)...and the Rok 24 1.4, which is quite good, But my Sigma ART 28 and 35 f/1.4 are superb~
 
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I own an R7 because I enjoy putting 32 MP on targets with a 1.6 crop factor.

Dear 3rd party RF-S/AF manufacturers: TELEPHOTO ZOOMS PLEASE!

APS-C: Living the Dream!
I use an R7 with the Canon RF100-400 and a Sigma Sport 150-600. Both are FF lenses but I don't see why converting them to APS-C would provide any advantage. With lenses this long, the size and weight are dictated by the focal length of the lens and diameter of its front element. If I wanted a 100-400 FF FOV, I'd use a 60-250 lens with the R7.
 
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I use an R7 with the Canon RF100-400 and a Sigma Sport 150-600. Both are FF lenses but I don't see why converting them to APS-C would provide any advantage. With lenses this long, the size and weight are dictated by the focal length of the lens and diameter of its front element. If I wanted a 100-400 FF FOV, I'd use a 60-250 lens with the R7.
Exactly. Despite repeated explanations coupled with the obvious complete lack of 'crop-specific' long telephoto lenses, some people keep asking for them. Once you're beyond ~300mm, there's no advantage to a smaller image circle because the image circle is no longer limiting to the design. Living the dream is fine, but asking for something that's completely unrealistic for technical reasons is pretty foolish. I prefer to live in reality.

I suppose those people should invest in OM or Fuji crop cameras cameras, then they could fool themselves into believing their long lenses were made for their crop cameras, even though they'd work fine on FF sensors (or larger in the case of the Fuji 500/5.6, that lens for their medium format cameras is the same size/weight as the one for their APS-C cameras).
 
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12mm f2 for RF-S isn\'t a desperate need, Sigma 10-18 and Canon\'s plastic 10-18 covers that already.

Kinda wish Canon let the full frame 18/2.8 and 45/1.8 be in RF mount. It\'s not really competing with Canon\'s but it\'s good alternative to RF16 and RF50/1.8.

I\'m not hoping for the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 to have RF version anytime soon, unless Canon amazes me.
 
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12mm f2 for RF-S isn\'t a desperate need, Sigma 10-18 and Canon\'s plastic 10-18 covers that already.

Kinda wish Canon let the full frame 18/2.8 and 45/1.8 be in RF mount. It\'s not really competing with Canon\'s but it\'s good alternative to RF16 and RF50/1.8.

I\'m not hoping for the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 to have RF version anytime soon, unless Canon amazes me.
The Samyang 12mm is a well regarded astro lens and the F2 is a huge benefit there, together with the minimal coma.
 
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12mm f2 for RF-S isn\'t a desperate need, Sigma 10-18 and Canon\'s plastic 10-18 covers that already.

Kinda wish Canon let the full frame 18/2.8 and 45/1.8 be in RF mount. It\'s not really competing with Canon\'s but it\'s good alternative to RF16 and RF50/1.8.

I\'m not hoping for the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 to have RF version anytime soon, unless Canon amazes me.
12/2 will be much better for astrophotography. I agree that 3rd party FF lenses would be great though.
 
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